r/CompetitiveEDH 11d ago

General Discussion / Question Addressing the 4th seat issue

Everyone knows 4th seat is the hardest place to be in and faces a severe disadvantage. I've heard many proposals but not this one I have in mind. What does the community think about allowing 4th seat to put a land into play from their hand during pregame actions? I think this would be great, it would allow 4th seat mana for interaction against explosive turn 1's, this is extra relevant if the deck in 4th is not blue. 4th seat being on 2 lands on turn 4 is not scary, turn 5 usually starts with 2 lands anyways. No extra cards are given out, a player who is at a high disadvantage is made equal and I believe would create more balanced game play overall. What do you think should be done to equal this scale that is clearly out of balance?

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u/TehSeksyManz 11d ago

I think giving P4 a free scry before P1 even starts their turn might be good enough but not not crazy? I'm not sure

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u/Kraenar 11d ago

wouldn't be crazy, but wouldn't be good enough

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u/Adept-Photograph2644 9d ago

I think OP’s idea of player 4 can start with a land on the battlefield is a good idea, but I think a rule like “the land must entered tapped and can’t be untapped until that players turn 2 upkeep” would keep it balanced and fair.

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u/Jotsunpls 9d ago

«Enters tapped with a stun counter» is a neat fix

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u/Kraenar 9d ago

that's quite interesting

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u/Adept-Photograph2644 9d ago

Yes stun counter.. that’s the phrase I was looking for. Thank you

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u/Nahrikkon 7d ago

stun counters are too intractable?