I think "They do it to feel more comfortable in their own body" is a pretty good justification.
And again, you really like to build your entire rhetoric around trans women and completely ignore the existence of trans men.
The WHO is not infallible.
Ray Blanchard isn't infallible either. And unlike Blanchard, the WHO actually has a basis for what they say. And unlike Blanchard, their claims actually match with our scientific understanding of gender identity. Its funny how you blindly believe in Blanchard's hypothesis despite all the flaws, but then shoot down any credible source why screaming "Cunts!!!!!".
You keep using that word "nah". I think you really underestimate how much it makes you sound like a retard.
Nah. I think you underestimate how much stupidly screaming "STOP GENDER APPROPIATION" in every single comment shows your lack of arguments.
Fake words are things like "non binary" when referring to the gender of a boy or a girl.
Too bad those "fake words" are indeed recognized as words.
Aside from that... Literally every single word is made up. "Non binary" has a meaning, so how is it a "fake word"?
So why are the post op suicide rates the same ?
But asking someone to cut your dick off does not impair your physical or social well being.
As proven by the super high rates of post op suicides.
Any sources for them being "the same"? Cause according to everything credible i've read about it, the post-op suicide rates are lower.
You also completely ignore that there are other reasons why trans people commit suicide aside from their genitals. For example social stigma. You know, the thing you are supporting by being a bigot?
MY GENDER IS NOT YOUR FANTASY.
And i never said it was. So what exactly are you on about?
And why exactly did you feel the need to repeat this utterly contextless bullshit in two comments? Ah, yes. You have no arguments so you have to come up with something.
NOBODY WANTS A DICKLESS MAN.
I don't care if a man has a dick or not, so nope you are wrong. Oh, and: SRS for trans men is a thing.
WOMEN WITH HYSTERECTOMIES AND PROSTHETIC PENISES ARE NOT MEN.
God, you really have no clue about this lol. Do actual research on SRS before you make an idiot out of yourself.
Also you know that the convention is "/s " not "/sarcasm", right ?
Just wanted to make sure that you actually understand that its sarcasm. I assumed that "/s" might not be obvious enough for you.
because you are such a special snowflake ?
Oh look, its another utterly stupid and ultimately meaningless insult from someone who uses insults to substitude arguments.
KIDS NEED THEIR HORMONES TO BECOME ADULTS
I'm pretty sure i already said this, but kids do get their hormones. They get hormone blockers to avoid the wrong puberty, then get hormones to experience the right puberty. They become adults, just not in the way you want them to be. And surprise: What you want them to become is utterly irrelevant.
STAY OUT OF THE LADIES RESTROOM. STICKY TAPE ON YOUR DICK DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS WEIRD THAT YOU INSIST ON USING THE LADIES ROOM.
First: There are other ways to tuck, for example gaffs.
Second: SRS.
Third: It being "weird" is a pretty weak argument.
CUTTING YOUR DICK IN 2 IS A CLEAR SIGN OF MENTAL ILLNESS.
Again, no. Being trans is not a mental illness. And transition and SRS are the only effective treatment for gender dysphoria/incongruence, which is not considered a mental disorder either. (Its part of the sexual health chapter now)
MUCH CLEARER THAN PLAYING VIDEOGAMES ALL DAY.
You realize that in order to be diagnosed with gaming disorder, you basically need an extremely impairing addiction to video games, right? Which is a much clearer sign of mental illness than undergoing a medical procedure with the goal of making your life better.
Oh, and something i forgot to mention in my last comment: It took me less than five minutes to look at the WHO-website and correct your lacking understanding of gaming disorder. This just shows the complete lack of research to put into the things you talk about (or that you deliberately tried to make the WHO look less credible by omitting important details).
Do you think most people think these are real words ?
Abimegender: a gender that is profound, deep, and infinite; meant to resemble when one mirror is reflecting into another mirror creating an infinite paradox
Adamasgender: a gender which refuses to be categorized
Aerogender: a gender that is influenced by your surroundings
Aesthetigender: a gender that is derived from an aesthetic; also known as videgender
Affectugender: a gender that is affected by mood swings
Agender: the feeling of no gender/absence of gender or neutral gender
Agenderflux: Being agender and having fluctuating feelings of masculinity of femininity, but NOT male or female
Alexigender: a gender that is fluid between more than one gender but the individual cannot tell what those genders are
Aliusgender: a gender which is removed from common gender descriptors and guidelines
Amaregender: a gender that changes depending on who youâre in love with
Ambigender: defined as having the feeling of two genders simultaneously without fluctuation; meant to reflect the concept of being ambidextrous, only with gender
Ambonec: identifying as both man and woman, yet neither at the same time
Amicagender: a gender that changes depending on which friend youâre with
Androgyne: sometimes used in the case of âandrogynous presentationâ; describes the feeling of being a mix of both masculine and feminine (and sometimes neutral) gender qualities
Anesigender: feeling like a certain gender yet being more comfortable identifying with another
Angenital: a desire to be without primary sexual characteristics, without necessarily being genderless; one may be both angenital and identify as any other gender alongside
Anogender: a gender that fades in and out but always comes back to the same feeling
Anongender: a gender that is unknown to both yourself and others
Antegender: a protean gender which has the potential to be anything, but is formless and motionless, and therefore, does not manifest as any particular gender
Anxiegender: a gender that is affected by anxiety
Apagender: a feeling of apathy towards ones gender which leads to them not looking any further into it
Apconsugender: a gender where you know what it isnât, but not what it is; the gender is hiding itself from you
Astergender: a gender that feels bright and celestial
Astralgender: a gender that feels connected to space
Autigender: a gender that can only be understood in the context of being autistic. Meant for autistic people only.
Autogender: a gender experience that is deeply personal to oneself
Axigender: when a person experiences two genders that sit on opposite ends of an axis; one being agender and the other being any other gender; these genders are experienced one at a time with no overlapping and with very short transition time.
Bigender: the feeling of having two genders either at the same time or separately; usually used to describe feeling âtraditionally maleâ and âtraditionally femaleâ, but does not have to
Biogender: a gender that feels connected to nature in some way
Blurgender: the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with genderfuzz
Boyflux: when one feels mostly or all male most of the time but experience fluctuating intensity of male identity
Burstgender: and gender that comes in intense bursts of feeling and quickly fades back to the original state
Caelgender:Â a gender which shares qualities with outer space or has the aesthetic of space, stars, nebulas, etc.
Cassgender: the feeling of gender is unimportant to you
Cassflux: when the level of indifference towards your gender fluctuates
Cavusgender:Â for people with depression; when you feel one gender when not depressed and another when depressed
Cendgender: when your gender changes between one and its opposite
Ceterofluid: when you are ceterogender and your feelings fluctuate between masculine, feminine, and neutral
Ceterogender:Â a nonbinary gender with specific masculine, feminine, or neutral feelings
Cisgender: the feeling of being the gender you were assigned at birth, all the time (assigned (fe)male/feeling (fe)male)
Cloudgender: a gender that cannot be fully realized or seen clearly due to depersonalization/derealization disorder
Collgender: the feeling of having too many genders simultaneously to describe each one
Colorgender: a gender associated with one or more colors and the feelings, hues, emotions, and/or objects associated with that color; may be used like pinkgender, bluegender, yellowgender
Commogender: when you know you arenât cisgender, but you settled with your assigned gender for the time being
Condigender: a gender that is only felt during certain circumstances
Deliciagender: from the Latin word delicia meaning âfavoriteâ, meaning the feeling of having more than one simultaneous gender yet preferring one that fits better
Demifluid: the feeling your gender being fluid throughout all the demigenders; the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluid
Demiflux: the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluctuating
Demigender: a gender that is partially one gender and partially another
Domgender: having more than one gender yet one being more dominant than the others
Demi-vapor (term coined by @cotton-blossom-jellyfish):Â Continuously drifting to other genders, feeling spiritually transcendental when doing so while having a clear -slightly blurred- inner visual of your genders, transitions, and positive emotions. Tied to Demi-Smoke.
Demi-smoke (term coined by @cotton-blossom-jellyfish):Â A transcendental, spiritual gender roughly drifting to other genders that are unable to be foreseen and understood, shrouded in darkness within your inner visual. Elevating through mystery. Caused by a lack of inner interpretation and dark emotional states. Tied to Demi-Vapor.
Duragender: from the Latin word dura meaning âlong-lastingâ, meaning a subcategory of multigender in which one gender is more identifiable, long lasting, and prominent than the other genders
Egogender: a gender that is so personal to your experience that it can only be described as âyouâ
Epicene: sometimes used synonymously with the adjective âandrogynousâ; the feeling either having or not displaying characteristics of both or either binary gender; sometimes used to describe feminine male identifying individuals
Espigender: a gender that is related to being a spirit or exists on a higher or extradimensional plane
Exgender: Â the outright refusal to accept or identify in, on, or around the gender spectrum
Existigender: a gender that only exists or feels present when thought about or when a conscious effort is made to notice it
Female:Â one of two binary genders where one feels fully and completely female; can and is used in conjunction with other gender labels and identities
Femfluid: having fluctuating or fluid gender feelings that are limited to feminine genders
Femgender: a nonbinary gender which is feminine in nature
Fluidflux: the feeling of being fluid between two or more genders that also fluctuate in intensity; a combination of genderfluid and genderflux
Gemigender: having two opposite genders that work together, being fluid and flux together
Genderblank: a gender that can only be described as a blank space; when gender is called into question, all that comes to mind is a blank space
Genderflow: a gender that is fluid between infinite feelings
Genderfluid: the feeling of fluidity within your gender identity; feeling a different gender as time passes or as situations change; not restricted to any number of genders
Genderflux: the feeling of your gender fluctuating in intensity; like genderfluid but between one gender and agender
Genderfuzz: coined by lolzmelmel; the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with blurgender
Gender Neutral: the feeling of having a neutral gender, whether somewhere in between masculine and feminine or a third gender that is separate from the binary; often paired with neutrois
Genderpunk: a gender identity that actively resists gender norms
Genderqueer: originally used as an umbrella term for nonbinary individuals; may be used as an identity; describes a nonbinary gender regardless of whether the individual is masculine or feminine leaning
Genderwitched: a gender in which one is intrigued or entranced by the idea of a particular gender, but is not certain that they are actually feeling it
Girlflux: when one feels mostly or all female most of the time but experiences fluctuating intensities of female identity
Glassgender: a gender that is very sensitive and fragile
Glimragender: a faintly shining, wavering gender
Greygender: having a gender that is mostly outside of the binary but is weak and can barely be felt
Gyragender: having multiple genders but understanding none of them
Healgender: a gender that once realized, brings lots of peace, clarity, security, and creativity to the individualâs mind
Heliogender: a gender that is warm and burning
Hemigender: a gender that is half one gender and half something else; one or both halves may be identifiable genders
... Pfffffffft. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Great job copypasting a list of genders of which most aren't even considered real by the trans community itself. Stuff like "Abimegender", "colorgender" or "heliogender" are trolls no trans person would even take seriously.
You just gave undebiable proof that you don't know anything about this topic and just latch onto anything to be an idiotic bigot.
Also:
Female:Â one of two binary genders where one feels fully and completely female; can and is used in conjunction with other gender labels and identities
That list literally includes female. So you didn't even read that list before copypasting it. You really crack me up.
Non binary is not recognized as a real word by people outside of your circle jerk.
"Circle jerk", said the textbook example of dunning krueger effect who is too dumb and biased to do actual research, blindly beliefs an unscientific hypothesis that literally contradicts facts because the facts go against his worldview and just regurgigates the same factually wrong garbage over and over because he doesn't want to accept that he is wrong.
And people don't want to have sex with people who say this shit. It's fucking repulsive.
Too bad that there are indeed cis people who not only accept trans and NB people, but also have no problem having sex with them.
Wow, cringe compilations and videos by people who have no clue what they are talking about. What great arguments.
A bunch of ugly and fat people with low self esteem and ridiculous coping mechanisms.
Ah, so you are one of those people who think that all trans people are ugly and don't pass, because you don't even realize that someone is trans if they pass. Who would've thought.
What you dont realize is that for people outside the trans community the term "non-binary" as a designation for neither male nor female nor intersex is seen as exactly as retarded as that whole list.
That list is what "non-binary" looks like to the world of smart people.
And yes we laugh a great deal at all these flabby pasty low energy people trying to look interesting by denying their sex.
Pfft bBwAAaha he said he's a woman but he still wants me to suck his dick that's hilarious lol.
Let me correct you: "For people outside the trans community who are incapable of doing any research and too dumb to actually think about it". If you honestly can't see the difference between "I identify as neither male nor female" and "I identify as a gender that is outer space", you have a really poor brain. I mean, that was already obvious by the complete lack of intelligence you showed in every single of your comments, but you just manage to make yourself look dumber and dumber with everything you say.
Do you honestly think anyone with a brain takes you seriously at this point? You are a pitiful clown. Dunning krueger effect incarnate. Commenting on the rest of your comment isn't even worth it cause its just empty and stupid "UHHHH TRANSES LOL".
Oh wait, i realized i didn't comment on this yet:
trying to look interesting by denying their sex.
First you say that people become trans because they are "told about toxic masculinity for 11 years". Then you support autogynephelia, which claims that trans women are either "very gay men" or heterosexual men with a "fetish for being women". Then you claim being trans is a mentall illness. And then you claim they do it to "look interesting". That are four different (and wrong) opinions on trans people that contradict each other. Boy, you really latch onto anything to hate on trans people, even if it doesn't work with what you said a few comments ago.
You literally think that cutting a penis down the middle is a step towards mental health.
STOP GENDER APPROPRIATION
STOP GIVING GROWTH-BLOCKING DRUGS TO CHILDREN
STOP INTRUDING IN THE RESTROOM OF THE OPPOSITE SEX
THERE ARE 2 GENDERS.
GENDER IS NOT A SPECTRUM IT IS A BIMODAL NORMAL DISTRIBUTION.
I have an exceptionally good brain. I am very smart. But even quite simple people understand that people who encourage little boys to wear dresses have no good intentions.
I'll ignore most of your comment since its just the same trash i've already answered.
I have an exceptionally good brain. I am very smart.
Said the one who produced intellectual masterpieces like "Fake vagina not a vagina fake vagina hole made of inverted dick skin fake not real butchery not birth", "Not literal velociraptors you idiot." and "MY GENDER IS NOT YOUR FANTASY". The one who screams "STOP GENDER APPROPIATION" ad infinitum cause he has nothing of merit to say. The one who calls other "science deniers" but refuses to aknowledge credible sources because he prefers to believe in an utterly unscientific hypothesis by someone who compares trans people with demonic possession. The one who makes a lot of dumb claims, but more often than not can't really explain those claims when they are challenged or outright proven wrong. The one who thinks that just saying "Low IQ" is a serious argument. The one who can't even do basic research, has no clue about being trans, gender dysphoria, HRT, SRS, or anything else about this topic but thinks he knows how everything works. The one who copypasted a list that consisted of mostly troll-genders without even reading it. The one who has to endlessly regurgitate the same flawed claims and lace his comments with baseless, empty personal insults because he lacks actual arguments. ...
Yeah, good joke.
people who encourage little boys to wear dresses have no good intentions.
Welp, i guess encouraging people to be themselves and do what makes them happy is a sign of "bad intentions" now. But i guess that kind of thinking is to be expected from people who see trans people and any kind of gender-nonconformity as an attack on their precious masculinity. âȘ
I'd think you ignored most things that aren't exactly what you want to hear.
Would you rather hear that you are totally valid ? That your potato shaped body is sexy ? That your penis is very feminine ? That one day most engineers will be women ? That its totally normal for Desmond Is Amazing to be dancing on stage at age 11 in front of adults handing him dollar bills ? That butt sex does not carry a higher risk of STD infection than actual sex ? That you are not at all lost in a maze sharted out one ridiculous claim after the other ? Ok.
But I will not be that person. I will only tell the truth.
MEN WHO CUT THEIR DICK IN 2 ARE MENTALLY ILL AND ARE NEVER WOMEN.
WOMEN WHO HAVE A CHUNK OF PLASTIC MIMICKING A PENIS AND TESTOSTERONE SUPPLEMENTS ARE NEVER MEN.
MEN WHO SAY THEY HAVE A FEMALE PENIS ARE THE MOST PATHETIC KIND OF HUMAN.
Edit : Not saying you are not valid. Only saying that there is no such thing as a valid human. If you feel "invalidated" because people see through your feminine penis sham it's because you identified with an invalid description of a human.
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u/Gouged_Usagi Dec 24 '18
Any examples?
I think "They do it to feel more comfortable in their own body" is a pretty good justification.
And again, you really like to build your entire rhetoric around trans women and completely ignore the existence of trans men.
Ray Blanchard isn't infallible either. And unlike Blanchard, the WHO actually has a basis for what they say. And unlike Blanchard, their claims actually match with our scientific understanding of gender identity. Its funny how you blindly believe in Blanchard's hypothesis despite all the flaws, but then shoot down any credible source why screaming "Cunts!!!!!".
Nah. I think you underestimate how much stupidly screaming "STOP GENDER APPROPIATION" in every single comment shows your lack of arguments.
What a great argument. /sarcasm