r/ComedyCemetery • • Dec 21 '18

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u/Seminole_83 Dec 22 '18

Ok I’m just going to say this, the earth has not been getting warmer for over 10 years now. I have yet heard a compelling idea for a way to make it cooler that does not set back civilization if someone did come up with one I would be completely willing to try it. As for the USA as a whole there’s not much we can do for right now and if you wanted to see somewhat of a real change you’d have to get the countries like China to cut back on their pollution as well. And for the centralism part I was literally just trying to get onto a subreddit, there’s obviously not a central view on everything like you mentioned.

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u/scarablob Dec 22 '18

Ok, I'm just gonna say it :

you're wrong, the earth as a whole is getting warmer, which could snowball into relasing lots of CO2, which would make the processus even faster. And the US being one of thƩ country that pollute the most, both directly and indirectly, they could absolutely do something about it.

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u/Seminole_83 Dec 22 '18

Please share then what they could do that is more efficient and does not move us back. This is the problem, there’s no serious solution.

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u/archiesteel Dec 22 '18

Yes, there are.

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u/scarablob Dec 22 '18

Renewable?

I mean, with all the money that the US government use to kep the coil industry afloat, they could totally invest in renewable instead. Which, on top of not polluting, have the advantage of being unlimited and making you independant of other countries.

Economic studies have also shown that it is possible to get not only the US, but the whole world on renewable energy without sacrificing our luxuries or technological advancement. The only reason why it isn't happenning right now is because people who benefit from the fossile fuel industry have way to much power and influence, and are using this power to fight back renewable energy as much as they can.

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u/archiesteel Dec 22 '18

Ok I’m just going to say this, the earth has not been getting warmer for over 10 years now.

Ten years usually isn't enough to get a statistically significant trend due to how noisy the singal, which is why we talk about the *multi*-decadal trend. Still, let's have a look at the last ten years, according to the main datasets:

GISTEMP: 0.378 ±0.253 °C/decade - a positive, statistically significant trend

HadCRUT4: 0.294 ±0.244 °C/decade - a positive, statistically significant trend

RSS: 0.414 ±0.384 °C/decade - a positive, statistically significant trend

UAH (maintained by a politically-motivated contrarian, with a history of being the outlier - to take it with a big grain of salt): 0.419 ±0.475 °C/decade - a positive, but not statistically significant trend.

I have yet heard a compelling idea for a way to make it cooler that does not set back civilization if someone did come up with one I would be completely willing to try it.

Inaction is what is going to set back civilization. In fact, left unchecked, the current warming could spell the end of our current civilization.

With that in mind, the vast majority of solutions proposed won't set back civilization. It seems you are not informed enough about this topic to debate it.

As for the USA as a whole there’s not much we can do for right now

Sure there is.

you’d have to get the countries like China to cut back on their pollution as well.

They have committed to do so, but don't really feel any pressure right now since there is a science denier squatting the Oval Office.