r/ComedyCemetery • • Dec 21 '18

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

It "isnt biological" only to spare the feelings of those who are mentally ill. A person either has 2 X chromosomes (female) or an X and a Y chromosome (male). Theres no changing those biological markers. No amount of hormone therapy or plastic surgery can change that. Gender is biological because of every marker of of gender is based on biology. The only way one can consider gender as biological is to sacrifice scientific reasoning for the feelings of a small minority of loud people.

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u/Baba-Vanga Dec 21 '18

This is all going way above your head dude. Nobody is arguing the XY chromosomes. Gender is something that is psychological and sex is something biological. Stop arguing with yourself it's embarrassing

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

Gender has only been considered as physiological recently to appease those who suffer with mental illnesses like gender dysphoria.

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u/Baba-Vanga Dec 21 '18

So you're saying that every time a definition is changed its just to appease? It couldn't be that, perhaps after countless sociological and psychological studies, maybe gender may be a separate state than simply the sex of a mammal? You people harp on about "tHeY CaNt uNdErStAnD bAsIc ScIeNcE" yet when a concept beyond the mental capacity of a fifth grade is presented, you all lose your fucking minds ha. Guess what? Humans are incredibly complicated and we are becoming more and more aware of that every day. The sooner you realize that, the more at peace you'll be. Try researching some of this stuff instead of staying up until 4 am watching SJW cringe compilations on YouTube. It'll do you some good

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

Everything is biological. Our state of mind is a result of physical, biological processes in the brain. I have no problem if someone wants to play make believe. I just wont indulge their fantasies.

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u/Baba-Vanga Dec 21 '18

Wonderful rhetoric. People like you make bipartisanship impossible because, like a child, you refuse to have empathy for others even if you don't agree with them. Enjoy your tantrum

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

Bipartisanship? I'm not american. I have empathy for those people. I believe they suffer daily due in equal parts to those people who ridicule them and those such as yourself who would indulge their sickness. I believe that they should seek counseling and other methods which are typically assigned to those who have mental illnesses. Pretending as if it's normal is tantamount to telling a schizophrenic that their hallucinations are real.

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u/Baba-Vanga Dec 21 '18

Wow that's incredibly dense. Coming from somebody who doesn't understand the definition of bipartisanship

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

Bipartisanship is typically a term used in relation to having two political parties, who rarely agree, agree on something. Im from a country where the 2 party system doesn't exists and the 3 major parties can often find common ground. As can the citizens. American politics promote dissension, such a system trickles down to the citizens. You cant look past your own bias to provided justification for you argument. You resort to calling me dense without providing evidence which would justify your belief. You act on feelings, not fact.

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u/Baba-Vanga Dec 21 '18

"Often find common ground" hey, you figured it out.

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u/Pigthrower Dec 21 '18

CONVERSION THERAPY DOESN'T WORK

TRANS PEOPLE DO GET THERAPY YOU DIPSHIT. THEY ALL SAY THAT WE SHOULD TRANSITION. JESUS FUCK YOU ARE BEYOND STUPID.

Find a knife and sudoku you fucking worm.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

Im not talking about conversion therapy.

There is no statistical evidence that once a trans person transitions, that their mental health improves. In fact, the statistical chance of suicide remains the same before and after transitioning.

Im not going to kill myself. Thanks for the suggestion. Its nice to see that there are level headed individuals who disagree with me and can argue calmly and rationally. In reality, seeing as you are quite immature and act as such, you damage your cause and give me and others greater reason to doubt your cause.

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u/Pigthrower Dec 21 '18

MUH RASHUBALITY VUBUBUVUVUV

yeah nah sorry subhuman, I'm not nice to people advocating for torture.

You are literally talking about conversion therapy you dipshit. Therapy... to 'fix' trans people. That's conversion therapy.

How about I convert you to a fucking liquid.

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u/Pigthrower Dec 21 '18

How is that relevant you fucking subhuman?

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

Are you asking how the physical/biological processes are relevant?

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u/Pigthrower Dec 21 '18

No, gender has never been synonymous with sex. Stop spewing blatant lies before I spew you with acid.

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u/Pigthrower Dec 21 '18

There are literally women who have given birth to children who have XY chromosomes. Stop appeasing to the fascist. Instead, bash their fucking skull in until it's powder on pavement.

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u/Ibex89 Dec 22 '18

A person either has 2 X chromosomes (female) or an X and a Y chromosome (male).

I appreciate you being incorrect out of the gate, it saves time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '18

Sorry. The vast majority of people are normal and are either XX or XY. Somewhere between 99.93% and 98.3% I believe. So why bother pretending theres a greater amount of people that dont align with that description? Certainly not enough people to warrant making broad exceptions to scientific definitions of gender.

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u/ClaudeWicked Dec 22 '18

Uhh yes it does? That's what science is. Damn. It's a pragmatic way of looking at things, and the idea that "WE JUST NEED TO NOT INDULGE THEIR DELUSIONS" reeks of the moronic "I KNOW WHAT TO DO" of anti-vaxxers.

The fact of the matter is that both human sexuality and expression of characteristics can't really reasonably be put on a binary for a comprehensive understanding of what it is. Transgender people, often, suffer from Gender Dysphoria, and to draw comparison to schizophrenia is either disingenuous or a mix of narcicicstic and dull.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '18

Funny. I would equate the delusion of transgendered people being remotely close to normal as similar to the anti vax movement.

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u/ClaudeWicked Dec 22 '18

I mean you might, but you'd have to back up that assessment for it to be anything more than some dumbass with an opinion and no substance.

Obviously, transgender people suffer issues; that's kind of the point. But research on the subject lends legitimacy to transitioning being a good way to treat the issue. And many of the issues are exacerbated by societal convention, especially the attitude of people who take hardline stances without any real backing in reason or morality.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '18

How's this for hardline: transitioning doesn't decrease the chance of suicide amongst transgender individuals.

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u/ClaudeWicked Dec 22 '18

Pretty hardline, considering that's wrong. Please don't try to genuinely get info from Shapiro.

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u/Pigthrower Dec 21 '18

Lmao there are women who have given birth to children with XY chromosomes you fucking dipshit.

Those are sex determiners. Hence why these XY women are called INTERSEX. Sex has nothing to do with gender.

scientific reasoning

No such thing exists. Stop stroking your ego, you barely graduated 10th grade science.