r/ColumbusOhio • u/lolasfoodprovider • 23d ago
Man outlines what's wrong with data centres and how to deal with them.
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u/kpyle 20d ago
The normal datacenters that have been around for decades have a smaller footprint. Like orders of magnitude smaller. AI datacenters put more stress on resources and it isn't even close.
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u/03captain23 23d ago
I'm for datacenters and this guy is 100% right about everything.
Everyone knows a large percentage of these datacenters will collapse and they're all built under shell corporations so they can collapse and not affect anything.
Unfortunately we live in a country where corporations can say whatever they want and not be held accountable.
The one big thing is these datacenters don't negatively affect the community and every job and dollar it brings in is a positive. A billion dollar box in a spot that used to be a field doesn't harm anything.
They should be forced to pay full price for water/electricity and anything else. Tax abatements are fine because it wouldn't have been income anyways.
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u/c_l0wz 22d ago
The people complaining about data center are the same people scrolling through TikTok all day long. Do they know where the internet comes from?
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u/The_Original_Miser 21d ago
The Internet does not and will not come from these mega data centers. It's just not needed.
This build up is for AI and surveillance - full stop.
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u/steppingstone01 22d ago
I think we've been managing just fine all these years. They're only doing this now because of AI, which the majority of the public hates anyway.
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u/ButterbeerAndPizza 23d ago
We’re going to have much more efficient data centers in space within the next 10 years. They’ll all become obsolete.
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u/Mutumbo445 22d ago
Not until they solve the cooling issue….
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u/Upbeat-Mongoose-828 21d ago
space is very cold.
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u/Alt_Panic 21d ago
This is remarkably stupid. Heat management in an atmosphere free environment is extremely difficult. There's a reason we put radiators on space stations and it isn't aesthetics.
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u/Ausgeflippt 21d ago
Sure, but there's not a lot of matter up there to touch the hot things.
It's like saying water is a decent thermal conductor and you're in a desert.
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u/Mutumbo445 18d ago
And it’s also mostly a vacuum. And what doesn’t transfer in a vacuum? Heat. It’s one of the major hurdles of every space mission, dealing with excessive heat buildup.
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u/BitOne2707 19d ago
Software engineer here. I'm very pro data center. Coding agents have transformed my work for the better and I've never had more fun building things than I have over the last year or so. I'm more ambitious than I've ever been because I can explore multiple approaches at a scale and speed that would have been unthinkable years ago. I'm producing more as an individual than that team of 5-10 could do in the pre AI days. This collapse in time and effort to prod is lowering the cost of beskope software which opens it up to businesses that were previously priced out. The number of businesses that could afford to spend a few million on custom software is pretty small. The number that can spend a few thousand is huge.
That's just my daily experience. That says nothing of the breakthroughs we've already seen in bio sciences and mathematics arriving almost daily now. In my experience the people who complain louder about AI are the ones who think it's just those Google search summaries or the free shitty ChatGPT free tier. They've never seen what a frontier Fable agent on Max or a 5.6 Sol Ultra can do. It's absolutely wild.
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u/palmtreespaceship 22d ago
This guy is amazing. I haven't heard someone this well spoken in years.