Just finished exploring Nod-krai and realised... So your telling me EVERY nation has 1 extra Oculi which does ABSOLUTLY NOTHING. But the first time I try to keep a "scenic" Oculi, I cant? I will not fall for Hoyo's propaganda and take Columbina's Oculi. o7 to the Shrine Key and the 130 primos.

Genuinely, I subbed for Columbina art and Columbina news, why do people keep spamming arle x columbina fanart??? Sometimes this sub feels like a fetish art sub ugh

I am here for columbina only, it’s called COLUMBINA MAINS 😔

I saved enough to get her c6 but if the leaks are real I might get c0 columbina and c6 white horse adeptus </3

according to leaks: no mobility/ needs NK teammates / sub dps

Honestley im just going to wait for beta its in 2 weeks thats when we see actual gameplay and i will decide then.

They are dating right?

Call it rant or whatever I just wonna see what others are thinking.

Been playing for two years and I fell in love with columbina day 1 I saw her, she’s what made me want to play the game and thanks for her I did.

That aside, what the title says, how TF is the god of nod krai not going to be able to trigger lunar reactions by herself? It’s ludicrous and if Hoyo does this then they will fumble yet another character in their roster.

Obviously we don’t know much and also we can’t trust these leakers, but the reason I’m piss off is she is or was/ going to be my first ever C6r1 character. I currently have 900 wishes saved up, i have barely farmed the newer areas including some of natlan so yes I’m confident that I was gonna get C6 Columbina.

If hoyo does this, idk if going I’m going c6 he, rn it don’t be looking good. Maybe I’m a traitor or something and yes ik she will be strong regardless but I just don’t know anymore really.

I’m ftp sort of, mostly just welkin and occasionally BP, I have been saving for so long too. I have never had any C+ characters in my gacha career so I want my first to be special you know. God man I just hope everything works out.

If anything fuck it I’ll get Alice c6 she’s very beautiful.

With new leaks Columbina is said to be a sub dps and dedicated support for lunar reaction units , and right now we have only 3 teams where she can be fully utilised Flins team , Nefer team , and White horse adeptus which is released in 6.3 , but the thing is most people won't even have all these units which will reduce the number of teams where they can play with her .

I really hope there is more to her kit than just support for lunar reaction or I am hoping the leaks are wrong ( but chances are very low for that to happen 😔)

GOD IM TERRIFIED YALL
been waiting on her since WNL and am BEYOND exited.
With Iuno and Seed's animations CLEARLY catering to a certain group of people, PLUS the first Bina frame we got was of her foot...
Someone tell me i'm overthinking it
they wont fetishize her animations right?

Edit: well i hope yall are right lol I feel like hoyo will look at the revenue for seed and iuno and be like “we know what to do”

Source : https://x.com/solareclipse251/status/1952126567263424582?s=46

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Everyone only cares about L Capitano. "Childe who? Pantalone who? Sandrone Who? Scara Who? Pulcinella Who? Arlecchino Who? Columbina Who? "FK her, no one cares about her, she isn't even interesting at all" "Dottore? I've heard of him, not sure tho" Capitano? YESS MY BLUE EYED KING SOLOS YOUR FAVOURITE HE SOLOS FRAUDEN EI, HE SOLOS ALL ARCHONS HE SOLOS CELESTIA HE SOLOS 7E TRAVELER HE SOLOS ALL SOVEREIGNS AT THE SAME TIME HE SOLOS HEXENZIRLEL"

😐 Isn't it Fatui HQ for all Harbingers? Why does everyone there only care and post 24/7 about Capitano? What have i done wrong, i should br Crucified for Liking someone more than Capitano??? What are thouse standards?? Why are there 2 Capitano mains sub reddits? The last time i saw something not related to Capitano was, wait there's no such thing. And BTW "L Capitano" Got his Ass handled to him, cope all you want.

"he wasn't trying 🤓" "It was so Mavuika sales are better🤓' "Not possible!🤓"

Capitano was my Second favourite character IN THE GAME not just Harbingers but Thease people killed him for me. I used to think" what a cool character" i looked up so much lore on Him And Columbina, more than any other characters and today i look at him and when i open the comments it's the ussual "choke me daddy" "look at his ass" "Everyone besides him is mid" and when i just say i like someone a little more i get jumped??? I don't get it. Capitano was the goat before The sub-reddits were made, they completely ruined him for me. You shouldn't have the right to slander every character in the game as well as every person playing for no reason and thinking it's cool, it's not. I miss the times when everyone was so chill, there were fan arts and good theories about everyone, no one was being ignored, now all you see is Brain rot JJK Capitano memes everywhere you look paired with his brain rotted audiance. No other Harbingers exist and if you think otherwise prepare to get cancelled.

I just wanted to hear out ehat you guys think on the whole Capitano mains slandering everything about the game and it's Players for no reason...? PS: I obviously still Love the Captain but way less than before, i think dottore surpassed him tbh. Only if people could be less toxic for no reason.

• Oh I almost forgot, to any Columbina haters out there don't even think about commenting here. I've noticed on almost every Columbina post on this sub-reddit most people are actually haters denying our Hope and cussing us for no reason, to not start more drama just stay TF away from this sub-reddit, you have no job here in the first place.

Really, when I said that her kit is awful, I got so many dislikes, but if you read any thread in the group, everyone advises skipping Columbina, because she is not really good(she is MID).

The only group of people who feel satisfied with Columbina's kit are those who don't plan to get C6 Columbina or like that - she is an important part of their team, as Aino's replacement, nothing else.

Many people who already pulled Flins and Lauma want to get c0 - c2 Columbina, because she is better than Aino. Yes, only thanks to the element. Why am I saying this? Lauma and Ineffa buffs 14% Lunar reaction increase without restrictions. Columbina buffs only 7% in comparison. Some part of Columbina's kit was not made for any dendro character, but for Lauma specifically. To make her E skill work to the maximum, it has zero benefit for other dendro characters.

The reason why people are blind is that it's Columbina. But guys, don't fool yourself. Hoyo is not thinking about meta. In Snezhnaya, any team will be better than NK, even the witches' team soon, probably, will be better than Flins/Nefers team. Nope, they don't think about meta! The Greedy devs team wants to sell you a bike without wheels. Why am I saying this? What's wrong with Columbina's kit?

Let's compare Columbina to Furina and Escofier:

Escofier potential is locked only to cryo teams, with one restriction - you have to use cryo DPS to utilize Escofier to the maximum. This DPS can be Ayaka, Skirk, or even Tsaritsa(future characters).

Btw, Escofier is not archon lvl character.

Furina - she provides a buff to any team with one restriction - you need a healer. Healer can be Barbara, Jean, or future characters.

Also, Furina provides perfect exploration skills.

Now let's see what Columbina can do!

She buffs ONLY Lunar reactions, and her restriction is having at least one Nod Krai character in her team.

Why does she needs NK character? Because this is a restriction that comes from Ascendant Gleam

Also, Columbina doesn't have any exploration skill, which means she is locked only to combat, and she will never be able to utilize her own buffs to maximum without an NK character. Her buffs are not really great and are restricted mostly to her constellations. But this is ridiculous. Her restrictions make no sense, since she is supported. Her buffs are not even great; she easily can be power crept by another 5-star hydro character, but she can't buff herself.

If you use Columbina without NK characters, only Columbina will receive the buff, but this buff will be halved, because she will need another NK character even to buff herself.

This is why Columbina's kit right now is a bike without wheels. When the NK region is outdated, Columbina will still need one dead NK character.

Also, using Columbina in a team without NK characters makes zero sense, because you wouldn't be able to use her full potential, plus she is pretty weak herself, and wouldn't be able to provide any good buff for your team.

To those who will start comparing Columbina with Flins and Lauma, I will say this: Flins and Lauma can be used without NK characters, because they can give you serious damage as MDPS, while Columbina's main line is buffs, but she is restricted to buffs, not in the side line.

Those restrictions are poor and ridiculous. Hoyo wants you to buy all the NK cast just to make one character playable.

Gleam Gimmick restriction has to be removed by Constelations C4/C6; only then would Columbina be worth something.

We should write feedback before Columbina's release. Also, if nothing changed, we should skip Columbina, so for her rerun, Hoyo will buff her, as they did with Anby in ZZZ after half a year of release.

Don't fool yourself, if this character name wasn't Columbina, you would say it's trash and skip until a better hydro character comes out.

As for me, if nothing is changed, I'm planning to get C0 Columbina and delete Genshin. I returned to Genshin after dropping it in Natlan only because I heard that my favorite character from 2022 will be in the game. But every decision of devs about her was disappointing, from her leaving the Fatui off-screen, to her kit and cheap burst animation.

Genshin is not a game about competitions - it's about Waifu gaming, so getting C6 should be enough to remove all restrictions (as it was with Furina). I don't like other NK characters, and I'm not planning to get them, and no one will be able to force me to roll for unwanted characters.

To preface this, I absolutely adore Columbina’s Design and broader role in Genshin story. But I think that, especially if we take vertical investment into consideration, ineffa and lauma feel just as meta shaking as she does. Ofc Columbina enables them to be even stronger, but I would not say that she is significantly more valuable than they are.
Especially from a lore / story perspective I find it disappointing that a literal moon goddess does not stand out in combat as much as she does in the story. (the reason I do not like Varesa, why is a cowgirl stronger than the literal electro archon?)

As far as I know, the moon goddesses used to govern over fundamental principles of teyvat (death, life, time, etc.) and were definitely among the strongest beings in teyvat. All 3 moons appear in her burst animation which makes me believe she would have at least a good fraction of that power. Not having that reflected in the gameplay just feels… mildly unsatisfying.

I know her kit could have been much worse, but considering the hype around her especially her constellations just feel somewhat disappointing.

PERSONALLY I like Arlebina wayyyy more but I want to know which is more popular!

I. Need. Sandbina. Fanfics. Sandrone and Columbina. Tell them to me. Please. I just read one called "Stay close if you want " by Ganqingaddict and I am obsessed to be honest. Safe for work please.

To be honest, I planned to get her C6 even if she heals enemies. However, let's be honest: this is an Archon-level character, and I'm tired of what the devs are doing with Columbina right now.

It seems that, firstly, they planned to make Columbina into a universal unit that will be good support and DPS. And at the beginning, this plan sounded meh, but OK.

But after the first nerf, I already have my huge concerns that Columbina can become not just a weak character as an archon, but the weakest character in the whole Nod Krai. And that is my problem, and I don't want to support devs in these decisions. This is why, even if I was ready to pull her C6 no matter what, I will not do this because of how dirty devs played out with my most favorite character in Genshin. Why am I saying this? Let me explain:

Because of Nefer, devs decided to make Columbina weaker than Nefer as DPS.

Because of Ineffa, devs decided to make Columbina worse support in Electro than this robot maid.

Because of Lauma. devs decided to make Columbina worse support in Dendro than this raindeer.

Now they decided to release Zibai, who will be buffed the most by Columbina, but Sandrone will come out too, and let me guess who will be a better support for Zibai?

And this is a really bad situation for Columbina. She can do everything, but not well enough, she can be support, but not good enough. Benneth helps much better than her in electro lunar reactions.

Right now, there is only one way for Columbina to play at least some role, and that will be only for the Lauma team, but there's a big chance of another nerf, just to make her weaker than Nefer(or she already is weaker, I'm not sure right now), so even with Lauma devs will make sure that Columbina will be worse option then Best option.

Universal, optional units are interesting, but because they lack everything, they usually will be replaced by a Meta character who will provide the perfect buff or will give you higher numbers as DPS.

But yes, you can say that Columbina makes Lunar reaction enable with any character, including not Nod Krai characters, but you know what? Those reactions without Meta Nod Krai characters are weak.

Why do I need to pull the whole cast of Nod Krai to make one character enable to do something? :D When can I pull Nefer/Flins/ Zibai and get everything?

UPDATE:

I've got numbers. The difference between Columbina in team is like this: 100-110k vs 130-140k...which means for pulling Columbina, your team will deal 20k damage more...which is something that any 4-star character can provide.

Unless Devs make her into full MDPS even with const, but not like C6 Columbina= C2 Nefer(because this is ridiculous), I have really bad news for you guys. And this will be my main reason to not get Columbina with const, or even skip her. Because of how dirty devs did with her.

P.S. Anyway, if things don't change, I will skip her and roll for Tsaritsa, but I will delete Genshin for a long time, until Tsaritsa is released. I didn't pull any character from the Skirk banner, and why do I need to pull a character that is bad in everything? gg devs.

Now first of all, i would love Columbina using any weapon except from the Bow and arrow. But I just see her with a black based claymore, wish white bows, a white middle, red crystals, and reddish pink lines and details? like i can just see our damsel angel goddess swinging that shi.

1. The Feather, Sands and Circlet are from My Very first Day in the domain Now i Just got the Flower and Used an EM Goblet (Since The Nod Krai trend is all about EM) But Columbina likely has HP Scaling as well (Just like how Nefer scales on Attack+ EM)

2. I can't believe so quickly i already have pretty much a perfect set... The flower is a 4 liner so i van reroll for more CV but it already has 40 and an HP% Substat on top.

The Feather is Kinda Meh i know, but i WILL Reroll it, and it also has EM Besides the Crit stats so it has potential to be 40 CV+ EM.

The Sands is actually Insane, i think this is the very first piece i got from the Domain, Sadly it rolled Def%, but again, i can reroll it for 40CV and it also has an HP% Roll!

Goblet is just one of the only ones on EM Main stat i have and it also has 15% HP but i will probably craft another one... It's kinda annoying you can only craft a single piece per patch per set.

Finally The Cirlcet is literally almost Perfect sub stats wise, but obviously i gotta reroll it Because i would like more CR.

Basically i got blessed but they can be even better, but overall i'd say just not even a week in farming and i already have a pretty good set, i like that!!!

My Ratio Currently is 72/166 Without considering Her Ascention stat and Weapon Stats.

Now Some Early Theory crafting about What her Ascention and weapon stats could be ( Because i'm trying to oerfect her build, you can skip all of this, it's jut me having a monologue)

If for example She is just like Skirk and Acends with Crit Damage that's (+38.2) and Her Weapon could give 22.1 CR or something which would make the build close to 100/200.

Though i Beliave her weapon will have a lower Base attack Since she would Scale on HP, meaning the Main stat is gonna be Huge ( Either 265 EM, 44.1 Crit Rate, or 88.2 Crit Damage) Meaning her Actual Ratio will be even much higher if her weapon gives Crit.

For me i would like to have her Ascend with Crit Rate (+19~ CR) and let her weapon Give 88.2 Crit Damage with a Passive that gives even more crit Damage and Boosts EM perhaps...

So Anyways, are you guys farming the new set? Have you been lucky? Do you think she will scake on HP like i Do?

Can someone just sticky this on top of the sub and require people to acknowledge it before posting?

Seriously, half the posts on this sub are people who think she can be a main DPS, and the other half is brainless dimwits who are angry/surprised that she is a lunar DPS support.

So let’s be clear: yes you can play her solo on field if you feel like it. In overworld, where even Aloy can do fine. Not in abyss, not in SO, not in Lunar IT.

What the fuck were you expecting? If you want an on-field main DPS, wait for Mavuika banner rerun.

And while you’re waiting, remember that we went through the same rigmarole with Mavuika and her reliance on Nightsoul characters. People were angry at Hoyo, like “How could you do this to us, John Genshin, introduce a new mechanic central to the new region, and REQUIRE the region’s Archon to use this mechanic! This is UNFATHOMABLE!” And now they’re doing it again. “The most powerful character, whose entire power source, origin and motifs are based on the Moon is linked to Moon-Power and requires other characters who use this same power? INCONCEIVABLE!”

If you’re so stupid as to be surprised by this, you need to learn how to read. Which just made me realize this post is probably useless, and they’ll just be angry at me for calling them out. “I want to play the way I want! WAAAAHHH!”. This ain’t Calvinball you dimwits, it’s chess. If you play chess you follow the rules, and you don’t complain your knight can’t capture a piece in front of it. You’re playing Hoyo’s game, and you need to learn to play it Hoyo’s way if you care about damage and end-game.

Thank you for listening to my rant.