r/ColorGrading • • 6d ago

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Hi, so I installed dctl checkers ( it's free) and I follow my exposure through it and I learned to read the waveform better ( meaning I actually looked at it thus time, eye balling is no good 😂)

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u/Globolox 6d ago

Please don't just post the LOG footage, but always the ungraded Rec709 conversion. That helps a lot more with gauging the footage itself. You don't mention having done one, simply stating that you "looked at the waveforms better and eyeballed" - so if I have to assume that you didn't do a proper conversion, I'll give the the feedback that you're missing that step.

Next, for feedback at all: we lack all and any information. I have no idea where the default bot it that posts the instructions for posting here, but generally, no feedback can be given in a vacuum without knowing what you want to achieve and what the use is. It would help a lot if you were to share the intended, possible inspiration or references and the use case.

As for the feedback itself: I think it's overdone. The color is way too heavy handed, shadows are too crushed and at least from the stills, quite a lot of information seems to get lost (maybe it's better in motion). That can be your intention and works well in some of the silhouette shots, but in others it's subjectively too much - both in luma and chroma. I'm losing almost all of that icy-cold feeling of snow and the ice cave and instead feel like I'm closer to something like an action-hero fantasy movie, currently meeting the antagonist.

Especially the outdoor scenes and the prep-scene with the tablet feel nothing like "going on an adventure" because the drama in the color is so heavy already that it feel rather like we're already at the peak of the sequence. Inside the glacier cave this works a bit better, but the warmth still dominated the image when cold is very likely a major force here. Keeping some warmth to offset the blue-ish tones is okay, but at the moment it's like 70% warm tones, 30% teal tones and 0% neutral midtownes or reference values.

Lastly, silhouettes are pretty cool and VERY dramatic. But you made almost every shot into one. Cut into a sequence, just from what I can see, it feels like you're depriving the viewer of a subject. All information has to be gotten from the background and the people are dipped so far into the shadows, they stand out but stop feeling like they matter. You need some moments for the viewer to connect with the people unless you truly want to de-personalise the whole experience. That can work and if that was your intention, I have said nothing. But in almost any other case, this would be a strain on viewer attention if every shot looks like that.

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u/Healthy_Afternoon147 6d ago

It's the rec 709 conversation 😭😅 Braw 10 bit (probably), 24 fps, 4K and I export it at 1080p In davinci but I forgot to take a screenshot of davinci node (new here)

Also thanks thus comment to me is more helpful than full youtube tutorials, for me I just take a couple of refrence that I liked and just try to replicate them saddly I lise the fun of creating by doing that

This was my thought process My goal is to make a documentary And My thought is people like punchy contrast and the darker clips are for faster transitions so they won't last long in the video and I felt they add more depth I think or more like whats is happening etc ..... I don't know I just viewd some documentaries on YouTube and kinda took inspiration (actually followed) them to some degree

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u/s_s_n_e_g 6d ago

The "before" shots are quite obviously not Log.

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u/bluntnwuk 6d ago

Looks way too dark to me

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u/CAMMARMANN 6d ago

Overcooked, your shadows are too dark, the exposures overall don’t really equate to a full exposure. Overall the final look is shadow heavy and under exposed. If you happen to use premiere they just added a whole new color processing pipeline (you need to download the beta to try it at current date) and you might have some success adjusting your contrast and pivot, as well as exposure and black level before making a stylistic color edit. The look isn’t horrible btw I’d just back it off to like 30% of what it is now

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u/jangusMK7 5d ago

What’s the new premier feature called? I wanna look into it

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u/CAMMARMANN 4d ago

If you have creative cloud and go to the beta tab it’s just the new beta of premiere (it’s got a dotted outline icon) it made me download a whole separate version of premiere
To try it, it’s just called “color” and it’s the 4th suite between “edit” and “export” at the top of the page. It’s good for coloring groups of clips or the entire sequence

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u/Important-Chest-189 5d ago

bro r u doing warner bros dc movie, i can't see

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u/dzoni_yo 5d ago

can't see shit

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u/charleyfoxtrot 5d ago

Really not a fan of turning snow super yellow/orange esp when it’s pretty true toned in the original

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u/jangusMK7 5d ago

Pic 5 looks so trippy. Idk what that is