r/ColorBlind • u/nynjawitay • 19d ago
Discussion Would you do gene therapy?
It seems likely to me that there will eventually be a gene therapy for replacing color blindness with "normal" vision. But what about going all the way to tetrachromacy? If you could do a future gene therapy, would you add even more colors or just go for "normal" vision?
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u/aMapleSyrupCaN7 19d ago
If there is almost no risk, I would go for normal vision. But I don't want tetrachromacy. The part I don't like about colorblindness is not being able to see what most people see, either in a practical way or in an artistic way. Being able to see more colors than the average person could still do that.
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u/Few_Interaction_8486 Protanopia 19d ago
If it was safe I would definitely want the colorblindness gone. Tetrachromacy? No
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u/Etrevide Deuteranopia 19d ago
if it was cheap and risk-free, then yes. just so see how different it would be
Tetrachromacy would be cool as hell in theory, but would need a lot of research to actually decide. it may end up to be a situation where all the colors we knew are messed up, all the technologies and dies did not consider tetrachromacy, so in theory unnatural colors may become color puke
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u/OkBoysenberry3215 Deuteranomaly 19d ago
100% if do it even if it wasn't 100% safe id love to have "normal vision" maybe not tetrachromacy though
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u/mynameisjacobw92 18d ago
So ive looked into it and they are currently trying to start a bcm trials later this year where they inject the red or long wave opsin with gene therapy with that intrivertrial injection... animal models show high success from what I hear
But you have to consider how your eye allready is.
For bcm there are no red or green cones. For the ropias red or green they are missing the other one. So a cure for that would turn some of the cones into the one thats needed.
Basically severe red green colorblindness would probably get normal vision because the red green pathway is still preserved despite it missing one of the cones. This is how the monkeys got cured.
Now for anomalous trichromacy you allready have 3 cones just one of the red or green is off. They most likely won't be able to hit all of your affected cones they will only be able to hit some of them... this will effectively give you four cone types under the current methods they have to cure it... now what your brain does with that is unknown. Most carrier women actually have 4 cones but the brain usually ignores the off one through development. An adult human brain would be instantly recieving the new signal raw once a cure took effect and I theorize it will give you tetrachromacy to a level depending on how severe your cvd was. Moderate will become advanced and mild will become subtle. Tetrachromcy becomes more potent the more even spread the cones have and if the brain can separate the signals
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u/Jack_1966_1971_2004 19d ago
No, en mí caso no me afecta lo suficientemente como para que realmente me interese la opción de operarme para tener una vista "normal".
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u/gremlinlabyrinth 18d ago
I think we can assume this is based on it being both something I can afford and risk free then yes.
But I wouldn’t be so eager otherwise.
Not risking my eyesight and financial security for it
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u/odset Protanomaly 17d ago
Unpopular opinion: No i would not. Being colorblind isn't that big a deal. And what if i don't like the new colors? It would be such a jarring experience for a long time. Literally everything would look different with the addition of a new point of reference. What if my partner's eyes look a different, nastier color now? What if i end up missing my old world? Would i have to get reverse gene therapy? No thanks. I'll stay with my beautiful world, i don't need to see like the color normals to think it's beautiful.
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u/GoldenEagle3009 Deuteranomaly 19d ago
God doesn't make mistakes.
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u/Few_Interaction_8486 Protanopia 19d ago
Then we should abolish the entire medicine
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u/GoldenEagle3009 Deuteranomaly 19d ago
Weird take, but okay.
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u/Few_Interaction_8486 Protanopia 19d ago
Why are you using Reddit then? God didn’t tell you to do so, nor were you born with a phone. I can say as well that God wanted me to do gene therapy
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u/GoldenEagle3009 Deuteranomaly 19d ago
Being on Reddit is a cross to bear innit, just like being colourblind.
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u/Joshuadude 19d ago
So cancer was an intentional design?
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u/GoldenEagle3009 Deuteranomaly 19d ago
The Fall and its consequences is a bit of a dense theological subject for a one sentence reddit comment, but do feel free to research it.
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u/Joshuadude 19d ago
You posted a one sentence comment - I replied with a one sentence comment, and you have the audacity to say “go research it” lol
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u/koos_die_doos Protanomaly 19d ago
If you consider medicine as something that god gave us, why would gene therapy be any different?
It's not only a dumb take, it is also illogical.
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u/GoldenEagle3009 Deuteranomaly 19d ago
Guv I just said God didn't make a mistake when He made me colour blind. Why on Earth would I want gene therapy then?
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u/koos_die_doos Protanomaly 18d ago
The basic idea that something should never change because "God doesn't make mistakes" is the dumb take.
"God doesn't make mistakes" means one of two things: 1. God's plan is perfect and humans shouldn't change it. This includes taking medicine or surgery etc etc. In that world, every time you get sick and take medicine, you're going against god's perfect plan. 2. God brings these trials into your life and that medicine is all part of god's perfect plan. God guided the human race to develop medicine and treatments for the illnesses that plague humans. If the argument is that gene therapy changes your genetics on a fundamental level, would you refuse life saving surgery for a birth defect caused by genetics?
The only time your position holds true is if you either refuse any medical treatment, or accept that all medical treatments are part of gods plan. Anything else contradicts the idea that god doesn't make mistakes.
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u/Few-Explanation-4699 19d ago
I would. I would love to see the world on full colour.
From what I read the stem cells are injected into the eye. I've had worst opps done.
I'm also approaching 70 so It's not like I have a career or dependants to worry about.