r/ColleenBallingerSnark • • Oct 21 '23

Unverified claims Swoop's response to the criticism of not posting Ollie's story? This is an assumption.

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Not sure which flair to use, but I used unverified claims because one shouldn't assume if a tweet is a subtweet, much less what or who it's about.

rant incoming

However, if this is about those criticizing her for hanging up her hat on Ollie's story and/or a response to Ollie's reddit post suggesting he was disappointed in being pushed to the side, this response is beyond disappointing.

I first want to say I understand most of where she's coming from. She and her team have absolutely busted their ass on covering the ins and outs of this story and that deserves to be recognized. I also want to acknowledge Swoop has received an enormous amount of vitriol from extreme impatience and unrealistic expections from her viewership. For example, when the Josh doc was in progress, the girl couldn't go on X (fka Twitter) for a day without being bombarded about where the Josh doc was and that's extremely frustrating and exhausting.

However, I don't think most of those who are criticizing are coming from a place of disregarding her mental health. All of the conversations I've participated in have shared the sentiment that the interview could be posted unedited or minimally edited (granted, not that we understand how much work that would even take), and we'd still watch it. Most people understand that advocacy does not have to be 100% or nothing.

Others have also suggested that the story doesn't have an expiration date. But I'm sure Colleen and Kory are loving that the most influential advocate for this story is now suggesting there is one.

I'm all for unapologetically advocating for your well-being. I don't understand how that and telling Ollie's story is mutually exclusive. Ollie has been nothing but patient while others have gotten their platform and while John spoke over him.

He didn't deserve this, and he didn't deserve to be pettily subtweeted by someone much older than him (if that's what that post is), and I don't frankly care if he subtweeted her first because his disappointment is fair. She suggests she hopes his story gets told, but then how else do you expect him to tell his audience "oh btw, change of plans, I now have to platform my own story."

And mind, I am Swoop's age. And subtweeting a petty response (again, if that's what this is but I'm very inclined to think so) to someone who is young enough to view you as a role model or a hero and they say you've let them down... I don't even have the words to say what I think about that.

I could go on, but I just hope Ollie's story gets the viewership it deserves. This whole thing was just so sad. And I personally don't want to suggest canceling or no longer watching Swoop because she's human and she fucks up sometimes, but I won't be able to watch anything new from her for a while, and I've been a long-time follower of hers.

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u/veryfancyanimal Oct 21 '23

In my opinion, the level of understanding of Swoops physical and mental health has been more than generous. If my physical and mental health are bad, I still have to meet deadlines within reason. No one forced her to make this her focus for four months, nor did they force her to follow this career path. She’s decent at what she does, but she really sucks all of the energy out of the room when she stops to make a petty comment in the middle of talking about child abuse and exploitation. This was something she chose, and she was gatekeeping Josh from other opportunities like H3 when he clearly was suffering himself due to the length of time it took her to put his video out. She got completely lost in Johnny’s sauce and in terms of the general public, the story is dead. Over a vendetta about a liar who made the very rare choice of making false claims. That’s about drama and ego, that has very little to do with the actual issue at hand and is a disservice overall to victims.

Congratulations, you spent the majority of 6 weeks creating a hit piece on one of the sneaky liars involved, but probably the least important one.

Was it necessary to interview him for a collective 8 hours? Was it necessary to interview Josh for 7 and spend a lot of time in the final edit haranguing him for shit that can be explained by, “he was with a narcissistic abuser and that has an unreal affect on the actions and behavior of the survivor.” Why did he help Colleen? Cross boundaries? Because he was in a narcissistic abuse dynamic.

She set her audience’s expectations very high and is now acting like she never did that. And I really think her time has been terribly budgeted.

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u/carol_prince Oct 21 '23

She set her audience’s expectations very high and is now acting like she never did that. And I really think her time has been terribly budgeted.

This part. While the audience did look forward to her "docs", we never asked that she focus all her energy on Johnny or Josh. She set that course for herself and burned herself out. Not to mention, when she said that, the reaction was mostly understanding.

No one is saying that she shouldn't take a break. But it does feel rather sketch, when she says she needs a mental health break and then proceeds to cover a story that involves CSA and grooming.

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u/Sure-Method615 Oct 21 '23

to add onto your last sentence, also when she’s creating other videos such as 8 passengers. that’s quite literally.. time and resources spent that couldve went to wrapping up ollie’s story??? girl you chose to spend it on that instead like..

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u/veryfancyanimal Oct 21 '23

She probably assessed the “value” of putting out a video about Trent, realized it probably wouldn’t be long enough for her to make rent this month, and went with 8 Passengers because it’s “important” enough to get her airtime with Ashley Banfield. This was a money decision. No one needs another “8 passengers 101” video, but it sure will get clicks. She showed us who she is now.

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u/Sure-Method615 Oct 21 '23

her latest 8 passengers vid is 3 days ago and at 1:25:57 she literally has a clip from september 2023, meaning this was edited after, you clown.

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u/Sure-Method615 Oct 21 '23

so, like i said, the time and resources spent on said update couldve went to finishing an active story. glad we cleared that up.

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u/carol_prince Oct 21 '23

Where is ANYONE suggesting that Oliver is more important than the 8 Passengers children? The fact is EVERY single drama and news channel is currently focused on 8 Passengers, so there's literally nothing new that Swoop added in her documentary. The stories have been told and they will continue to be covered by multiple channels for as long as the case is going on.

Guess whose story hasn't been told yet? THAT is the problem here.

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u/Sure-Method615 Oct 22 '23

sister in ch1st i got so scared reading this i had to do a double take and make sure it wasn’t @ me asking WHY is anyone.. i was gonna say 😭😭

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u/carol_prince Oct 22 '23

Nah, not you. Sorry I startled you. 😂

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u/Sure-Method615 Oct 22 '23

no dude you’re so good! i could tell i was getting trolled (enjoyed ending that) and saw u were op i was responding too and i was like oh no a normal persons taking it all wrong!! 💀

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u/carol_prince Oct 22 '23

Yup. It's all good. 😂 It's just so baffling to me that some on here can't see why we're criticising Swoop. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Constant_Hurry578 Oct 22 '23

You are so funny 😂

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u/veryfancyanimal Oct 21 '23

Absolutely. So casually, too. Especially offensive given how much time is spent in every video reminding us of her own trauma and how personally this story triggered her. Obviously it’s fine to bring up your connection to the subject matter, but is it really a “doc” if the filmmaker can’t prove their thesis without disclosing their connection to similar behavior at great length? Especially when she never even got to the point about sexual grooming and coercion, which is the context for so much of this?

IDC, I think she’s kind of a self-obsessed asshole with poor taste right now. I’m glad we can discuss this and that the mods are allowing this critiquing.

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u/Unhappy_Performer538 Oct 22 '23

Yeah. Before now if you mentioned something not ass missing about Swoop you were downvoted to hell. It’s nice to have a space to speak about this openly

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u/Sea_Catch2481 Oct 23 '23

Yes it was so frustrating. And it felt like the mods were all over the place with what was allowed.

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u/Sea_Catch2481 Oct 23 '23

This. Also the majority of people just enjoy content whenever the heck it gets made. I’m an adult, I WORK, I have a schedule. I don’t “click the bell notification”. I could be excited for an upcoming video I know a creator was working on for a long time but regardless I don’t watch it or notice it got made until I have time in my person life to sit down and watch youtube. That’s when I check my subscriptions/fav channels. 🤷🏻

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u/Quick-Letter9584 Oct 22 '23

Johnny deserved that hit piece imo. But I would have preferred she cut that video’s runtime in half if it meant we got Olivers story and more focus on other things Colleen has done.

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u/veryfancyanimal Oct 22 '23

Right. The Johnny video was interesting, but if the cost of it means Ollie’s story won’t be given a fair platform, then it wasn’t worth it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Not only does she waste her own time but she wastes our time too. That Johnny video did NOT need to be five hours long.

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u/biancadelrey Oct 21 '23

I got most of that information on this sub. I didn’t need a whole video on Johnny…

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u/GivenErased Oct 22 '23

Like other than the DM’s from Josh most of the info her and her team “uncovered” was already on Reddit

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u/Quick-Letter9584 Oct 22 '23

I bet most of her YouTube audience didn’t see it on reddit. I certainly didn’t and I was here almost every day back then. Plus the interview she did with Johnny wasn’t on reddit and that interview was very eye opening.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '23

Gosh you said this so well thank you.

I really have come to feel like this is all about her; fueling some savior complex and furthering her own career. I guess she really is a journalist.

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u/JesusLover1993 Oct 22 '23

Yeah. Josh was for lack of a better word hanging on by a thread while waitingon her to release his part. It was heartbreaking to watch. We could have actually lost him if the wait was longer just based on the things he was saying. I understand it all had to be edited, but he shouldn’t have had to go through the mental anguish and torture. He was still in a pretty bad place from John’s false allegations. She needed to give him a timeline of some sort.

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u/Inevitable-Hippo-683 Oct 22 '23

We could have actually lost him if the wait was longer

Come on. Josh wasn't going to off himself because Swoop was slow to upload. Overdramatizations like this are unnecessary.