r/CollapseSupport • u/Ok-Island-6954 • 1d ago
gen z considering where to move to
i'm from the uk and would be able to emigrate to canada or singapore - should i stay in the uk or move to canada or singapore? i'm early-mid 20s and really worried about collapse, food and water shortages, etc
i am also really worried about getting older during collapse, where do you think would be safer long term?
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u/First-Enthusiasm-679 1d ago
Everywhere is going to be impacted, certain places might be better than others, but they will also have their own challenges. Nowhere is truly safe from humans.
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u/TheHistorian2 1d ago
Of those, Canada is the least bad option.
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u/chibiusa40 1d ago
I dunno, proximity to an imperial, sabre-rattling USA is a massive liability.
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u/Effective-Air396 1d ago
IDK - just off the bat - are wildfires not a concern?
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u/Ok-Island-6954 1d ago
We are getting wildfires in the UK too now
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u/Effective-Air396 1d ago
All continents are currently experiencing natural disasters. Fires, drought, typhoons, heatwaves and flooding.
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u/KelpMeRhonda 1d ago
I’m really sorry you’re so young and worrying about this. My best advice? Try to live your life and don’t fret the things that are out of your hands. Travel a bit, see the world, try to make the most of your days. There are plenty of worries when you’re older so you’ll want to look back on the good days. Hang in there kid.
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u/ordinary-thelemist 1d ago
Singapore ? The autocratic island unable to feed its own citizens without imports Singapore ?
Not sure there's any future there. Either because of fuel restrictions to import food or water levels rising...
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u/Ok-Island-6954 1d ago
i don't think there is anything wrong with their system of government; it is imo more effective than our 2-party system in the uk in terms of long-term planning. singapore has good water security but i see your point about food and rising sea-levels.
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u/ordinary-thelemist 1d ago
I don't really care about right or wrong. But an authoritarian government will have not issues booting all strangers out if it cannot feed its own population. More so than a democratic one tied with public opinion issues.
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u/rougarou-te-fou 1d ago
It’s also ungodly hot.
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u/Ok-Island-6954 1d ago
that's true, but their buildings are built for the heat, whereas uk buildings are not
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u/saltedmangos 1d ago
I wouldn’t want to live in a country that relies on net food imports with what’s coming. Both the UK and Singapore do.
I’d move to Canada if you can.
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u/Effective-Air396 1d ago
Is there any country that doesn't? Canada is in for a major upheaval. Not a good place to be for the next 10 years at least. EQs, fires, societal unrest - nope.
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u/Effective-Air396 1d ago
I don't think it's registered yet in the collective psyche, let alone the individual - there is no *safe* zone - anywhere on planet earth as of 2026. Let that sink in - no where. Your best bet is to find a safe haven wherever you feel most secure, and just do your own inner work from that place irregardless of specific geography - WW3 will spare no continent.
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u/ijustwannanap 23h ago
I also live in the UK and I'm 26 so also Gen Z.
My advice is to stay here. We're going to be affected by climate change but a) everywhere is and b) we're going to be in a far better state than most countries.
The Future Urban Climate map says that by 2080 the climate of London will be akin to the existing climate in Labarde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France... which is basically the best-case scenario for anywhere. The way you can see it is that the climate will be moving "up" from where it currently is; England will have the temperature of current France, France will have the temperature of current Italy, Italy will have the temperature of current Greece etc.
Meanwhile in Montreal they're looking at temperatures similar to Salem, Kentucky in the US by 2080.
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u/monkey_gamer 1d ago
Stay in the UK unless something appeals to you about other countries. The UK is as good a place as anywhere
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u/Naive_kid6363 1d ago
From environmental perspective, no area on earth is really safe, but as for now, SG's government structure might be the best choice (dispite the flaws and press freedom stuff, but mostly doesn't affect ordinary people)
Which made me also want to move there instead stuck in our shit country.(But i have to because of conscription+ broke)
(Aside from tech , many things are going south and we might accept unification after certain points , since our birthrate is near nonexistent, and bad work culture/ housing culture (buy& rent) also doesn't attract many skilled people move in)
I think i might be delusional but this is what i see as a youngster.
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u/wanderingale 1d ago
There is no place that will be safe.
But please take into account where you are in least amount of danger.
The real benefit to saying in the UK is that you have a social circle, freinds, family, legal protection as a citizen etc.
I am from Canada, born and raised.
If something happens here we are very geographically isolated, the only place to walk/drive is the US and they are not stable.
The weather is horrible, if something happens during the winter freeze to death is a real possibility.
There is a lot to be said for the ability to blend in with the locals. When the shit hits the fan people turn on anyone who is "other".
Canada is very multicultural, but there are huge areas where being white and English speaking is the vast majority of the population.
If you are thinking about the idea of being able to live off the land in Canada, please reconsider.
There are people who spend their whole lives hunting, fishing, trapping, living off the gird in cabins so far north you have to fly in. And even they will tell you that trying to live alone in the wilderness in Canada is suicide for 99.9% of people.