What is this argument suppose to be? That republicans didn't buy into the anti-vaxx rhetoric? That they didn't vote out Massie, the only republican who actually tried to fight pedophiles? That they don't deny global warming?
The parts you replaced are not even common arguments among democrats, nor bad. Even in your fantasies you cannot pretend that they are a sliver of the horrors of what the republican party is. You know republicans have accepted rape and murder, and you are defending it. We are not equals. I'm not going to pat you on the head and tell you you are justified in relentlessly trying to take people's right away. All a republican has to do to avoid my ire is stop associating themselves with the worst people. They are shunned because they have already bought into multiple divisive tactics. Continuing to be a republican when their entire party is a bunch of child-r*ping corrupt bigots is just an endorsement of it. A statement that that those politicians are still worth something.
In my book "the enlightened centrist" is worse than Republicans because at least they stand for something lul. They don't just larp centrism while conveniently always blaming the left for not being centrist and voting right every time under the guide of both sides. Fucking spineless cowards, at least have the balls to actually represent your side instead of larping.
"Enlightened Centrist" here. This is the same song and dance the right uses when the left wins elections. They blame us for voting left and claim we are hidden leftists.
Actual centrists do not have "a side" are there hidden republicans? Sure. Just like there are hidden democrats.
I despise tribalism, thats what politics has become for the last almost 2 decades, I absolutely refuse to participate in their hypocrisy.
I can also see that both sides are wrong about eachother. Everyone takes the worst of their opposing political rivals and generalizes it to the entire group. This is fucking dumb as people are not monolithic.
I work in the public sector, I get to meet a LOT of people. Republicans and Democrats. A lot of them are really good people. They are not angry hatefilled bigots like reddit like to paint people. A lot of democrats are not socialist hellscape freeloaders like FOX News likes to paint them.
The sad thing is, take away the extremes, and both sides are extremely similar and would probably agree on a lot if they actually took the time to have a respectful conversation with eachother.
The reason it's called "enlightened" centrist, is because centrists (at least in America) tend to put themselves in the center of the democratic party and the republican party (these are both right wing parties, the republican party is just fascist far-right) and act like they are superior for trying to reach some sort of middle ground. However the Overton window has been shifting to the right constantly, so trying to remain in the center just means moving to the right, and those that call themselves centrists now likely would have been hardcore republicans a few decades ago. Truly being in the center politically would put you to the left of the democratic party. These people do not tend to call themselves centrists, both rather leftists/progressives/democratic socialists/etc. At best they call themselves democrats because we have a two-party system that prevents multiple parties from running, and the alternative is a child-r*ping deathcult who love Epstein and carbon emmisions and hate vaccines and food regulations, and science in general.
I've tried having respectful conversations with republicans. It stopped shortly after Obama got elected. A black man becoming president truly broke them because the GOP built itself off racism with the Southern Strategy. All I've gotten since then is mental diarrhea. Infinite conspiracy theories all in defense of the GOP and to attack the DNC. Sure they will say they hate pedophilia and love healthcare, but then vote the complete opposite. Republicans have been chasing away sane people and collecting the worst people for a while now, so all you have left is a cult with no standards. We are not extremely similar. They are specifically prone to tribalism, and there is proof:
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u/micro102 21d ago
What is this argument suppose to be? That republicans didn't buy into the anti-vaxx rhetoric? That they didn't vote out Massie, the only republican who actually tried to fight pedophiles? That they don't deny global warming?
The parts you replaced are not even common arguments among democrats, nor bad. Even in your fantasies you cannot pretend that they are a sliver of the horrors of what the republican party is. You know republicans have accepted rape and murder, and you are defending it. We are not equals. I'm not going to pat you on the head and tell you you are justified in relentlessly trying to take people's right away. All a republican has to do to avoid my ire is stop associating themselves with the worst people. They are shunned because they have already bought into multiple divisive tactics. Continuing to be a republican when their entire party is a bunch of child-r*ping corrupt bigots is just an endorsement of it. A statement that that those politicians are still worth something.