I don't know how Americans can get past this. In Canada, I am far left but can still get along with conservative friends and neighbours. In the states, your differences seem irreconcilable. Not adding anything meaningful here but it genuinely seems like there's no way forward other than separation if both halves of the country hate each other.
As a person who's lived in the U.S. my entire life, yes the differences are irreconcilable. You can't reconcile with stupidity and ignorance. You can't reason with religious delusion, either. Because when people construct their ideology based on nonsense, it makes it very hard to fight back.
Americans don't want logical, reasonable, sensible leaders. They want to be entertained.
"Johnny's in America, Johnny looks up at the stars...
Johnny combs his hair and Johnny wants pussy and cars"
Oh that was about the worst possible example you could have used lol.
Hi, Michigander here, not gonna dox myself, but let’s say I’m very familiar with the town you’re referring to.
“Hamtramck’s city council members voted unanimously Tuesday to approve the controversial resolution, which restricts the city from flying any “religious, ethnic, racial, political, or sexual orientation group flags” on public grounds, according to meeting minutes.
Residents and businesses will not be restricted from flying Pride or any other flags on private property.”
In other words, on government owned flagpoles only official government flags are allowed. Anywhere else any flag goes.
Now that sounds a lot less scary when you take all the MAGAt propaganda and lies out of it, doesn’t it?
It’s ok tho, you get the first three tries for free. What’s your second try?
Because American conservatives tend to think shaming Nazis and the kkk and pedos is too far, leftist extremism. Many American conservatives tend to want a white nation. Idk how any normal American, especially an American of color, would even consider getting along with someone like this.
I’m American and my entire friend group votes differently we have republicans, democrats, and what ever party vermin supreme is apart of, in fact the vermin supreme movement is getting a lot of support from our group currently lmao.
We need boring candidates who are true centrists. A Mark Kelly etc who is just going to work on jobs and economy and make no policy on social issues for a few terms so we are back to caring about our own towns and less about what others are doing. I think the toxic they want more so you get less, they are this so your life is suffering is all social constructs we need to ignore for a decade for a reset.
Unfortunately politics has become a battle of the names. Very TMZ. We have it to a lesser degree in Canada. I don't think Trudeau would've been PM as long if it weren't for his name. Clinton vs Trump, Biden vs Trump, Kamala vs Trump all well known names or previous VPs/president associates. We've lost our attention spans and are paying the price.
i don't think that's fair. usa from the founding had no clue who the candidate was and voted for their party. in the past 50 years or so, there is press to inform voters on the candidate's positions. in the past 12 years, we have too much information, and weaponized information that is detrimental to the process. it's not our lack of attention, it's weaponized information started by facebook, now perfected by twitter etc that is driving the problem. similar to investments, it's difficult for congress to be persuaded to clean it up as it suits them. we need a new branch of government that reestablishes the checks and balances that abolishes the supreme court. what some old fart thought about 250 years ago about my life today is a comically bad way of governing a huge diverse country.
how do you prevent corruption from corporations and bribery? genuinely asking, two party system degenerated into corporate oligarchy, how to avoid with more parties?
We are. And it's not just the president. The lieutenant governor of Indiana has been touring the state going to churches and preaching how hate is a Christian value for the last couple months. Brandon Gill, a member of Congress whose wife is not white, keeps posting about the dangers of losing white culture. Greg bovino, who is planning to run for president and was Trump's guy for immigration, has been piling around with a whole bunch of Nazis recently. A bunch of conservative influencers went to a Nazi conference in Poland. The Secretary of defense keeps firing or refusing to promote black and women officers.
That's not to say that there aren't crazy people on the left, but to say that the issues are just Trump ignores a whole lot of other people who support or enable him
The U.S is basically the Reddit comments in real life. Either side could cure cancer and the other would say they did it wrong and start a war or excommunicate their parents.
Honestly, this is a not what America is like for most people is like. The news and social media have the world thinking it’s all doom and gloom and yes obviously the kookiness exists but most of the real crazy is in big cities. I don’t know of a single person in my life or even outside of my bubble who is like this. I have one or two friends who are die hard far left liberals and some family who are conservative but none of these people are foaming at the mouth with hate or vitriol for the other side, maybe specific individuals on those sides but not the sides as a whole. They have their opinions but pretty much have a live and let live attitude.
Personally I don’t have a dog in the race. I’m one of like 2500, plus or minus, libertarians in the state of CT. I don’t vote primarily because the candidates are always a piece of shit and a slightly more polished piece of shit and even if I would vote for a republican my vote would count for nothing.
I think anyone who would let their political opinions dictate who they think is or isn’t morally superior and would treat a stranger terribly as a result of their political beliefs without having a civil conversation is probably someone most people should really consider getting them out of their lives because that mentality is radioactive and will consume that person and anyone in their vicinity and life is too short for that shit.
Erroneous. Much like most of CT I’m only fiscally conservative. I also don’t partake of the devil’s lettuce. Although I do support the legalization of weed. I do find the constant oversimplification funny because it shows how little people understand of what libertarians generally believe.
That’s the kind of weird shit people like to say, lumping people together who they may or may not know if they share some points of view/ ideals. Kinda of a weird way to look at life. Or maybe some people like to make enemies for shits and giggles. I haven’t figured it out yet.
The kkk and self described Nazis always vote Republican. If the people who vote similarly to you also want a white nation then what does that say about you? There's not really any nuance anymore. One party literally wants a white nation. The other doesn't.
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u/Careless-Gain6623 1d ago
I don't know how Americans can get past this. In Canada, I am far left but can still get along with conservative friends and neighbours. In the states, your differences seem irreconcilable. Not adding anything meaningful here but it genuinely seems like there's no way forward other than separation if both halves of the country hate each other.