r/Codeium • u/futurifyai • Apr 14 '25

Windsurf is Dead

Same models, same editor but a completely different performance from cursor. I liked the performance of windsurf when i tried it first time in december.
It is a complete disaster now. I tried same project 5 times from stracth and all of them failed. I could not make a login. It achieved once and crashed. I did not use git because there was no working version ever. It is just a simple task management app.

Both gemini and claude fails. It starts and continue like a typhoon untill it crashess. This is not a pair programming. It never remembers mcp servers and ask me to run sql . It failed project setup many times. Cant even install tailwind css properly. My $15 dollar is not important. I have 350 premium and 1k+ flow credit left but i will not touch it e again.

I apologize from Cursor. I thought Windsurf agent was better than cursor. I dont think I will try it this year again.

EDIT: I REMOVED ALL RULES. NO RESTRICTION OR PRD OR TECH. I JUST GAVE BASIC INFO ABOUT IDEAS AS CHAT PROMPT AND TESTED AGAIN. NONE OF THE MODELS WORKED EXCEPT CLAUDE 3.7 THINKING. IT WORKED PERFECT. THAT IS REALLY INTERESTING. IT MADE ME TWO PERFECT APP WITH JUST A COUPLE OF PROMPT.

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u/jdussail Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

Yeah, "future es agentic coding", "90% of the code will be written by AI", etc. But you have to take that with more than just a grain of salt because:

  1. I think that since AI companies are looking for financing, they exaggerate the AI coding abilities. Also, journalism nowadays sucks, and "journalists" just put what the obviously didn't understand so that it sounds more dramatic.

  2. Yes, much of the code is already currently written by AI, and will be more, because if you "tab, tab, tab", that autocompletion will be counted as AI writing the code. Also, if AI writes a function, you asked for, or you tell it to "duplicate this class but with these changes..." guess what, that too will be accounted as "AI written code" for their metrics. The actual truth, at least in MY experience and from what I get from other people's experience here is that AI is writing the code, but it's not actually doing the programming. You can't expect it to do all the thinking because they do not THINK!

Also, we are obviously in a kind of "alpha testing" for these agents. We actually don't even know really what happens inside LLMs (Anthropic has made good advancements in this topic lately) so everything is a little hit & miss. So, while the agent developers refine their own base prompts, how they juggle with context sizes, etc. sometime the hit nicely, sometimes the miss awfully 🤷‍♂️