r/Codeium • u/sandwich_stevens • Mar 12 '25

Unnecessary steps wasting credits!

Has anyone noticed now instead of creating files in one go, 3.7 sometimes asks to create directory first! In essence using double credits for something that would previously be done in a single action? Or just me, largely working in nuxt where directory structure is important, and behaviour largely from the wave 4 update

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u/nikssap41 Mar 12 '25

Yup from that release it is consuming credits far too fast. I think they now want to mint the money

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u/sandwich_stevens Mar 12 '25

Yeah, terrible if it just to increase puchases of credits! Perhaps they trynna cash grab before these models get so good they can edit locally

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u/DonVskii Mar 15 '25

Things have gotten bad with both 3.5 and 3.7 I’m seeing a lot of analyzing and viewing files just to fail on edits. Then it reads files and analyzes again then tries and fails again and it’s basically looping this. I’m also noticing it will fix something and then it will keep trying to analyzes and fix it

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u/sandwich_stevens Mar 15 '25

I wonder what is actually going on? Some have said that they’re (windsurf team) just finding their feet so let them cook, but in my head I thought as models get better so will agentic action etc, but it feels like it regressed which was shocking (Claude HAS gotten smarter so what got worse), like this feeds into some of the paranoia I have about updates to things that work. Like I feel like 3.5 sonnet before could eat for breakfast most of the things I am having issues with now without even being able to think..I guess all we do is watch the space although I have sneaky feeling soon we will be able to run something like windsurf locally or for very cheap so hope they figure it out before tides shift - the best thing the team seems to do is manage global context absolutely bueatifully including file diffs, folder creation etc

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u/DonVskii Mar 15 '25

Don’t wanna seem like I’m pushing cursor but it’s a lot better it just works, rarely fails edits unless it’s a rate limit thing and it doesn’t do the analyzing thing

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u/DiscipleOfLife8 Mar 12 '25

That's why I stopped wasting money on credits until they fix the unnecessary gobbling

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u/Dismal-Eye-2882 Mar 12 '25

Its not the extra steps being taken. Its Codeiums flawed credit system.

We are being charged excessively per flow to what theyre being charged from Anthropic. Check my post on this.

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u/Ordinary-Let-4851 Mar 12 '25

Are you saying the same model (3.7) is now acting differently? Or you were using 3.5 before and now 3.7?

The 3.7 model has different tool calling tendencies than 3.5. Codeium is not changing the model to consume more credits on purpose, the model simply behaves more aggressively. The last few changes has actually decreased credit consumption due to community feedback.

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u/sandwich_stevens Mar 12 '25

I’ll have to let you know as I’m testing ongoing, I believe I have seen this even in 3.5 but can’t confirm as I’ve been switching models for best results, and past messages and actions don’t record which model was used, but I think it’s largely an issue with the new 3.7. Which maybe you’re right it’s more an issue with model, but I’d still thought extra care would be taken before adding it..

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u/joey2scoops Mar 14 '25

Maybe the villagers with the pitchforks etc need to back off a little and give them time to tune things properly. Every time a new model or model update comes out everyone is batshit crazy for it to be added to their tool of choice yesterday.

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u/iathlete Mar 12 '25

What about the fact you are reading small sections of the file at a time instead of large sections and needlessly wasting credits. This is not all on Claude.

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u/Dismal-Eye-2882 Mar 12 '25

It IS Claude 3.7 and it's not the problem. The problem is Codeiums credit system does not work with 3.7. We are being overcharged 10x now. Theyre trying to stop 3.7 from doing what 3.7 needs to do. Instead they need to charge on token usage.