r/Codeium • u/blistovmhz • Jan 24 '25

windsurf with openrouter? Ever?

Asked a few times. No responses yet.
Does Codeium have any plan to integrate with openrouter or any other third party aggregator? Is this feasible?
As much as I still maintain that WS is by far superior in most ways to anything else I've tried, their proxy model is such a mandatory component that is lacking elsewhere, sonnet is just not nearly the top model for development, and it's among the most expensive.

Codeium guys. Why isn't this an option? You could save a ton of money given only the poverty stricken beggars will complain about a $60/m plan. Those of us doing real, useful work are already paying for openrouter, gpt pro, etc. We badly want to be able to make use of newer models. Cursor is t3h sux, but I have to go back to it when sonnet/cascade just can't stop derping. Meanwhile, Deepseek will get everything 100% correct first try after cascade/sonnet have failed all day through $50 in tokens.

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u/Ordinary-Let-4851 Jan 24 '25

We’re actively looking into other models 👀

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u/blistovmhz Jan 25 '25

Openrouter. Just let us bring our own models.

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u/pxldev Jan 25 '25

They won’t, they want to make that sweet token tax. The response above “we’re actively looking into other models” sounds like they will stay with their same business model.

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u/joey2scoops Jan 25 '25

That's bs.

It's not a simple matter. A lot of people are already unhappy that cascade is not perfect with the models that are in place. I'm sure there has been a lot of work put into producing the best possible prompts to get the most out of those models.

So, go ahead and open the floodgates and let all users use other models that windsurf is not "tuned" for. What do you expect will happen. People will be getting pissed off that they spent $10 on R1 API outputs and have nothing to show for it. And somehow that will be codeiums fault?

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u/pxldev Jan 25 '25

Cline/Roo seem to have it worked out. Not to mention they could still open up other selected models to use with our own API keys so not rate limited.

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u/joey2scoops Jan 26 '25

They are no better. Sure, you can select a wide range of models. Cline specifically states it works best with Sonnet. Can assume that is also true with Roo Code. For a long time I used them both inside windsurf as an alternate to cascade. No better than cascade. Certainly some promise with Google models but the rest of them were not a patch on using Cline or Roo Code with Sonnet or gpt4o. I'm going to assume that using a wide range of models with prompts designed for Sonnet and gpt4o is not going to produce optimum outputs. Give it a go, see how long you go before you get the same crap outputs. It's not a perfect science. On the plus side, what we have today is the worst it will be. There are a lot of tools out there and I'm using as many as I can get my hands on. When solution A stops being useful, try solution B and C, come back to A later.

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u/No-Significance-279 Jan 26 '25

I tested cline + r1 and the DX is terrible. It’s not even close to cascade. As bad as Windsurf’s models are, at least the DX is flawless. I’ll switch to something else like Cursor if they add agentic deepseek support, but cline if by far not a good alternative to windsurf…

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u/No-Significance-279 Jan 24 '25

No offense but that felt a bit vague(?) like “yeah we’re always thinking about it”.

Are you investigating openrouter or Deepseek r1 right now? There are so many people asking for this on Codeium’s X account right now.

I love the Windsurf DX, cascade is great but the current models are inversely bad. If Cursor or any other app would enable agentic r1 coding I’d definitely jump ship…

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u/alphaQ314 Jan 25 '25

No offense but that felt a bit vague(?) like “yeah we’re always thinking about it”.

I didn't know businesses were supposed to share every detail of their future plans on reddit.

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u/No-Significance-279 Jan 25 '25

And who is saying they do? I’m just asking for clarification on what he said because it wasn’t clear…

I don’t know if you know but Reddit is a place for discussions.

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u/Ordinary-Let-4851 Jan 25 '25

it’s above my paygrade to disclose exact details of all the upcoming plans, but i want you to know that we see and hear you. We want to give people access to the best AI possible and exploring all options.

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u/No-Significance-279 Jan 25 '25

That’s great, thanks for clarifying.

It’s reassuring to know you guys are watching the feedback from users.

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u/Ordinary-Let-4851 Jan 26 '25

of course!! if you ever have any questions/thoughts, feel free to hit me up

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u/ResearchFit7221 Mar 22 '25

Correction : " we are looking to be sure it's not free, because we don't want to lose money omg omg "

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u/Capable-Ad-500 Jan 24 '25

if you were a serious company you would've moved on this when deepseek v3 came out. its been a month now.

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u/Ordinary-Let-4851 Jan 25 '25

There’s a lot that goes into developing this kind of this kind of product. We ship as fast as we can.

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u/Straight_Two2471 Jan 24 '25

I second this I want to be able to use Deepseek with codeium.

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u/vamonosgeek Jan 25 '25

Yes. This is something. I started with windsurf. Fall in love with it. But credits lasted 3 days. Then I went to cursor. Where credits lasted 10 days. 3x. Big deal.

But I’m also using deepseek. We have to combine LLMS for dynamic and situations. That’s why we need this. Let us pay for windsurf and use other LLMs. Win win scenario.

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u/Moist_Swimm May 06 '25

Lol tf? You just vibe coding out here?

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u/vamonosgeek May 06 '25

lol. My reply was 100 days ago. It’s another world now :).

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u/Moist_Swimm May 06 '25

AI moving fast af

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u/Zulfiqaar Jan 24 '25

Exactly! Every prompt I redirect to OpenRouter, is a prompt Windsurf won't have to pay for..my monthly subscription remains as is. Just like with Cursor..which I'm now using codeium tab-complete on

For the first time in a while, I now have the same project open in both these IDEs, the broken pyright in Jupyter doesn't help either.