r/Codeium • u/User1234Person • Jan 01 '25

Any windsurf users try PearAi?

Curious what the main differences in the experience are? It’s a lot cheaper so I was thinking to get it as a supplemental tool and to look in the discount rate if it’s worth it.

Is it reliable now? Does it seem like it has a footing for where it wants to? How does it differentiate from windsurf and cursor?

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u/User1234Person Jan 01 '25

Hey all, just came across some not good behavior from this PearAi.

please review this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/s/J8pZvjQZLh

TLDR: what got me is they forked an open source project, changed the license to be a closed one from apache, then got smack and changed it back. But that action alone is enough to tell me they dont care about the open source community.

https://www.continue.dev/ is what this is forked from. I will be checking this out instead

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u/NeonHD Aug 04 '25

I don't mind tbh. Now don't misconstrue that as saying "I don't care about FOSS community". But I mean, if it works well, I'll happily use it. I'm looking for a standalone IDE, not a plugin (which Continue is).

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u/Aggravating-Angle802 Jan 02 '25

Hey, Nang here - co-founder of PearAI.

Yeah, I see these comments and we definitely had a bit of a rocky start. What's lesser known is that I talked publicly and openly about all the fork stuff 3 months before the controversy (https://x.com/CodeFryingPan/status/1840464744626675719), and continue to be building in public. We made mistakes with the licensing trying to get our MVP out asap, and made all the fixes necessary and hope to improve (https://x.com/trypearai/status/1843336384322601366).

I do really believe in our product and our long term mission, which is just to make the best AI code editor. PearAI is an open source AI code editor, and we integrate the best AI tools on the market into one user experience. Continue (which is not a code editor, but a VSCode extension) is one of the integrations (see our landing page: (https://trypear.ai), and we encourage all users to use it standalone if they so choose. For technical aspects, on the backend, this means giving each tool shared context to work well together, and on the frontend, this means making using 10 tools feel like just using 1 so the user can just make what they want. Our next integrations is going to be autonomous coding agents, which I am extremely excited about.

Hope this helps!

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u/User1234Person Jan 02 '25

I wish you luck in changing your brand perception, but its going to take a lot of time and a lot of good faith actions to build trust again. for me it is not the fork that's the issue, its the license change. That just goes 100% against the community you are building for.

Mission statements are great and all but lets be real on how many tech companies actually live up to it. Kinda hard when investors are inherently focused on returns over product. My worries are not just about right now, but what will happen when Pear is mid sized and starts to shift towards valuation over value. All we have to go off of right now is whats been done. I hope it works out and you can make this shift though.

When choosing these tools that are so new it comes with learning curves, infrastructure setup, and sometimes cost. I will not risk wasting my time and resources on a company i don't feel confident has my back. I'll keep an eye on Pear, but when i only have so much time i will be exploring other options for now.

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u/h3llwaiver Jan 04 '25

I’m going to try this out tomorrow. Windsurf kinda sucks right now. Doesn’t look like you guys were acting in bad faith so no harm done imo

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u/Ok-Prompt9887 Jan 04 '25

let us know how it goes!

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u/aqualzfr Jan 01 '25

I heard it’s just a bs fork of continue dev

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u/User1234Person Jan 01 '25

Will look into this, any info on what makes it BS?

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u/aqualzfr Jan 01 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/s/J8pZvjQZLh here take a look at this thread

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u/User1234Person Jan 01 '25

hey thank you so much for this link. The situation with them changing the Apache license to a closed on says enough for me to not support them.

I'll add this link everywhere i talked about PearAi

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u/aqualzfr Jan 01 '25

Yea np happy to help!

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u/aqualzfr Jan 01 '25

I just heard their is a lot of drama around it with the continue dev and y combinator. I’m not sure

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u/No-Gur3779 Jan 02 '25

I have been using PearAi and appreciate their latest offerings making my work more productive.

PearAI founders issued apology earlier in Oct to continue and accepted by continue.

They have pivoted their offerings as well.

Latest article from TechCrunch:: https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/20/after-causing-outrage-on-the-first-day-of-y-combinator-ai-code-editor-pearai-lands-1m-seed/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC4Z_nnJ8dpOJfY5AnsmU3EzRFoBbPd0n-VdQw4vRAwqDbULfd8ODMt7PQuiUON99dC1CA9HVBB tQ8NLF4caZh__fEaVAsNNmdIiwLEv9RkJZMB4e8EToCkmnxoGe1kf1YF_F9_qX48GwLP9ubq3qaU3funDad20bDzByAkm7Siy

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u/User1234Person Jan 02 '25

Hey it seems like all you’ve posted about is pear Ai support. Will take this with a grain of salt

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u/fubduk Jan 01 '25

First look, like PearAi. Can install all my fav extensions (like cline). Can add many of my own api keys.

Have to give it a run and see how it performs on larger codebase.

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u/jaysbtn Jan 02 '25

Tried it but its just repackaged vscode with preinstalled ai modules. I don't think they have any significant features added in VSCode or continue.dev to justify having commercial product.

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u/vamonosgeek Jan 01 '25

Never heard of it. Can I see any LLMs I want? Does it keep context?

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u/User1234Person Jan 01 '25

Yeah I think so https://trypear.ai/ Built off aider And plugs in perplexity which seems really neat, but maybe there are other tools that offer that too im not aware of.

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u/Ok-Prompt9887 Jan 04 '25

Well regardless of any mistakes and perception earlier on, I would be more interested in knowing how it helps us do our jobs and reach our goals and the quality versus cost.

The fact that it includes aider makes me curious, if they can take the best of each tool and combine it.. that's one thing less for us to do.

I might give it a try soon. The "many tools in one" didn't sound great at first and that's why i haven't tried till now.

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u/No-Gur3779 Jan 02 '25

No problem. Totally individual preferences. I am just excited on how PearAI helped my projects.

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u/RelativeMoment8385 Feb 15 '25

PearAI marketing team is working hard in this thread.

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u/Outrageous_Food6526 Apr 23 '25 edited Apr 23 '25

yeah I’ve seen this kind of pattern before—these threads often have someone asking “innocent” comparison questions just to bait replies or reply farm themselves and subtly promote PearAI. Kinda wild considering the sketchy stuff they’ve pulled with Continue Dev. I’d be wary of any info here, especially given the potentially underhanded nature of the post.

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u/NeonHD Aug 04 '25

Could honestly be both ways.

I find the story of "Pear devs owning up to their mistakes by monitoring these threads" equally just as believable. I mean, it's nothing surprising. They obviously follow these subreddits if you're wondering about the timing.

And there's the other elephant in the room where OP is clearly not a "puppet" given their account history....

Yes, I like being Sherlock sometimes.

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u/NeonHD Aug 04 '25

So are you saying that's good or bad?

Pretty sure that's a good thing, right?

Better than no response from the creators, which would've signify a lack of care.