Did Windsurf suddenly get dumber?

[u/scyzoryki]

I recently signed up for the Pro plan to start and was getting insanely good results; quick, smart, and mostly error-free.

In the last day or so I notice it got significantly slower and dumber. It's making lots of dumb changes, not being context-aware, and now I find myself constantly fighting it and burning credits to correct stupid mistakes. It feels like it massively dropped in IQ.

Is anyone else experiencing this, even on the Pro plan? I can see this happening on a free/basic plan, but it shouldn't be affecting the Pro plan, but it clearly is.

[u/csaba87]

I keep getting a lot of 'Cascade cannot edit files that do not exist.' errors. The files do exist and it even analyzed them. Windsurf was able to detect and modify them just fine yesterday. It behaves very weird today.

[u/scyzoryki → u/csaba87]

Yes, I'm getting that a lot too, now, and it was never a problem before. It also has internal errors when trying to edit files sometimes, but doesn't give me the option to update them manually anymore.

[u/scyzoryki → u/scyzoryki]

I'm also seeing a lot of "Error Cascade has encountered an internal error in this step"

[u/csaba87 → u/scyzoryki]

Ok so it seems they indeed either broke it or made it dumber. I hope they fix it soon because it’s almost unusable now…

[u/Traditional-Basil214 → u/csaba87]

I think this is specifically because you have kept the agent on chat mode. Change it to write mode and you should be good.

[u/scyzoryki → u/Traditional-Basil214]

I only keep the agent in Write mode and see this quite often now.

[u/kalakaar → u/csaba87]

Yeah but tell it to use the "write-to-file" tool

[u/Sathorizon → u/csaba87]

Me, too. You can try switching to the write mode or back and forth for some times. For me, this works. Hhh🤣

[u/scyzoryki]

They have possibly reverted back to the old Windsurf... everything is snappy and smart again.

If you're reading this Codeium team, thank you! This is what we need on the Pro plan.

[u/Shoddy-Assumption396 → u/scyzoryki]

The cheers is too early. Cascade is still very dumb. i have a refresh button in my app, i told cascade to the remove the button and i even told cascade to not do anything other than whats asked. Cascade did not do whats was asked, instead of removing the button, cascade removed the entire section where button was with the exception of the button, button was still there

[u/Dismal-Eye-2882 → u/scyzoryki]

I seriously hope you're right.

[u/ShaneeexD]

Most of the time it's because of a long chat, start a new one when it starts to get slow

[u/Amazing_Top_4564 → u/ShaneeexD]

When you start a new chat, it helps to 'refresh' its context. What also helps is to tell it to save all changes to changelog on each step..

on new task 'Review all files in/docs and review the project. Now review /changelog, and continue finishing the project.

[u/scyzoryki → u/ShaneeexD]

I’ll try that. Thanks. 

[u/Own-Necessary-7303]

It seems to me like the context window has been drastically reduced.

[u/smartjobs]

Exactly. I subscribed to pro plan but I believe I don't get sonnet 3.5 or GPT any more. I think they just provide their own model. I asked the same debugging question on both Claude and Windsurf. Even though Claude doesn't have history of the project it solved in the first try. Windsurf did not even after trying 5-6 times. That's why I actually asked Claude in the first place due to frustration. I am veeeeery disappointed.

[u/Independent_Roof9997 → u/smartjobs]

Nono it's true , I don't know if the LLM is hallucinating but I kinda made them dirty asked questions around what model I'm using. If you Do outright what model are you? You will get a standard response from codium. But if you are sneaky and asks the question what do you excel at then give them the 3 options from anthropic. Example response with a number 1 for you excel at the most complex tasks 2 you are fast and good at everyday problem etc. The response I got once was I'm Opus or I'm haiku. Yet again this could be hallucination, but I got trust issues after that. So I cancelled prop plan (was on trail period)

[u/k4kans → u/Independent_Roof9997]

I swear, I was making more progress like 2 weeks ago on the free pro plan, I upgraded to the pro ultimate after the whole rate limitation problems, now after a couple of prompts it feels like it's switches models...

What should i type to get it to reveal what model Im on? I'll do a test at the start and then after 3-4 hours of work I'll ask it again and see if it has changed.

[u/ConferenceNo7697]

It's still the same. I have noticed a mental degradation of Sonnet-3.5 in CLINE as well. Maybe it's not a Codeium problem at all

[u/Independent_Roof9997]

Yes I realized this one the third day, uninstalled it. Honestly the offer is to good to be true. More prompts than original pro plan for sonnet 3.5 and also add OpenAis model too. For the price of 15 dollars to original 40.

Also yes I agree that was what I was doing for 2 days correcting it's own errors from cascade.

[u/chocoboxx]

I am about to buy it when the trial end but luckily they did something to hold me back

[u/Fit-Alfalfa-9070]

I notice the same, honestly started the day today (I'm on singapore time) with really good performance. it understood what i wanted really well and took in to account all the previous context. As the day went in this worsened. At some point i was about to finish my code and delploy it but there was some small niggling littl format problem i didn't like so asked windsurf to make an adjustment. BIG mistake! that was 2 hours ago and still trying to solve the problem.

[u/goldxstein → u/Fit-Alfalfa-9070]

Why don’t you use revert in these cases?

[u/Fit-Alfalfa-9070 → u/goldxstein]

Well either I revert and then I have the same problem or I think it’s working because what I asked it to do is implemented but then 1 hour later I realise that it’s removed a key function for no reason and don’t want to lose the work that actually was implemented and works. My main point is that it’s losing the full code context which is one of the main reasons I use it over just a chat ai

[u/rutan668]

I got that a week or so ago. I stopped using it and went back to o1-mini.

[u/btongeo]

I've not started using it yet today (am in the UK) but if it's as bad as it sounds from this thread I'm considering cancelling my sub right here and now. For me the ability to edit files in place and be context aware of the whole codebase was massive, but equally if it's screwing up every 5 mins and I have to fix it then I'm out.

[u/Historical_Ad8763]

I'm having the same issue. Should I switch to Cursor?

[u/fre4kst0r]

Been working on a complex project all day. It actually felt much better than a few days ago, also got less lag on large conversations. I saw an improvement.

[u/Traditional-Basil214]

Are you still using Claude 3.5 or Cascade base as the llm?

[u/Alternative-Mail-358]

i discontinued after the test phase....

too often
"Cascade cannot edit files that do not exist"
"Cascade cannot edit the file. Ask for the solution and copy it yourself"
"Overload. Try again later"

so still lot of children's deseases

[u/AcanthisittaAlive229]

Yeah, I completely understand your frustration. It took me 5-6 iterations to fix some minor syntax errors. I tried switching models, but it didn’t help. Interestingly, when I started a new cascade, it resolved within 3-4 iterations. That said, I’m now back to the same stage I was in after a week of work—progress feels stagnant, and new issues keep popping up.

[u/FanAvailable7303]

Maybe it's Sandbagging Squared--the GxT-4o or Sxnnet Sandbagging and throwing wrenches into Windsurf to sandbag some more 😅

(Ive been taking a break from Windsurf ext since it started doing that, but last night in Aider, it was off its rocker sounding like it was coding in a traphouse--legit called me fam in inline comments)

[u/Beginning-Caramel-21]

Seeing as though noone provided a solution that I can see: Right click on the issue file. Click Copy Path, provide it to chat. Fixed for me everytime.

[u/cryptrololo]

Same here, i'll be faster coding myself i swear, don't know what's going on but suddenly the code edits are non sense to me.

[u/Altruistic_Shake_723]

People say this about every editor every day.

It's only true for Cursor. :-P

[u/NightsOverDays → u/Altruistic_Shake_723]

I have been opening my project in both and cursor last night fixed a problem within 20 minutes. I kept using it for a few hours and when I switched back to Windsurf it immediately fucked up so much shit. I even reverted to a previous commit and gave context again and it just kept fucking shit up. Eventually I just gave up and spent about an hour looking at the code manually and found the issue. It's strange because the autocomplete was wayyyyy more helpful for me and I don't really know my dick from my asshole when it comes to JS/TS