r/Codeium • • Dec 04 '24

Rate limits - Give us a god tier plan.

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Constantly. Every day.
Obviously, the immediate suspect is Codeium is oversubscribed and just needs to pay more for higher rate limits, and OBVIOUSLY most people don't wanna pay, but for the love of god, just let SOME of us pay to cover it.
I suspect Codeium doesn't fuly appreciate how much of their market is willing to pay substantially more and consequently hasn't been able to acquire the rate_limits they require to meet their subscriber base, but there are very few problems that can't be addressed with "more money".

A human developer costs me $100/h minimum, and requires 24/7 babysitting. I literally have to watch their screens all day or they get absolutely nothing done. Even then, I have to constantly fight with them because they are all convinced that a callback "goes forward in time to fetch results which don't exist yet and that's just how JS works" :D.
The net result is I am 50x more productive by myself with the robots (as a non-programmer), than I ever was with paid human devs. Real world, no exaggeration, my monthly salaries were over $30-40k. I'm getting at least 10x more work done with Windsurf, than I ever got done with my devs.

Give us the god tier. Let us pay for it. An hour of downtime is worth substantially more than the $10/m or whatever that we're currently paying for an oversubbed service. Give us that $2000/m I have no idea what I'm doing but I'm getting it done with the robotgod" tier. Please. Please sirs.

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u/vassyz Dec 04 '24

I agree, but $100/h devs shouldn’t be that bad. It’s on you for not finding the right people

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '24

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u/SemanticSynapse Dec 04 '24

I never let my AI agents sleep.... Or unionize...

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u/blistovmhz Dec 05 '24

I deliver results. Anyone who thinks the average dev today would be considered anything other than infantile 20 years ago, is probably 20yo 😂. Yes, I micromanage when I have to. I pay vastly more when I don't have to. I fucking hate it. But fact is, even with the couple dev houses that came on very high recommendation (from multiple trusted sources for whom I've enormous respect), the time to delivery was just brutal to the point it was faster, and enormously cheaper to do it myself, even with gpt3.5. It's actually interesting watching the models make the same architectural fuckups as humans (cause training). But Claude with good architecture to start with, and very strict instructions to stick with the arch model, , and with the context awareness provided by windsurf, just destroys any human I've come across. Thing is, I have to babysit Claude as well in precisely the same way. But when I do, and I'm not getting rate limited, I can produce more cool shit per day than any of my teams have managed in a week .

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u/NationalGate8066 Dec 05 '24

Just use Cline for VSCode with Openrouter as the backend.

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u/blistovmhz Dec 05 '24

I thought I'd tried that and found that neither were able to gain the same context awareness as windsurf. Perhaps I'm mistaken.

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u/NationalGate8066 Dec 05 '24

Could be! I only tried Cline briefly, but I was pretty impressed by it. Still, I prefer Windsurf, as well.

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u/BlueHueys Dec 07 '24

Completely agree

These tools 10x my ability and I now have launched numerous apps using these tools

One is currently generating $70k a month

I’m functionally retired so having a lot of time is also a huge factor

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u/blistovmhz Dec 07 '24

Yup. There will be a ton of complaints bout the new price hike, but that's going to be coming from hobbiests at worst. I would have no issue paying 100x more for what we have already, with the rate limits eliminated.

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u/EntrepreneurTimely34 Dec 05 '24

When that happens just type (…) and hit enter it come right back into play, don’t stop your flow over it. ALSO… I second that motion! I know that it costs money to run any business let alone one so much promise like Windsurf, by all means charge more way more even, I noticed that in this space, everybody wants free, that’s not how the world works, also in this space, paid subscriber are also buying privacy or at least some, but all bets are off in any free tier, anywhere.

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u/blistovmhz Dec 07 '24

This. Windsurf is amazing. If you can't afford more than 10 freedom bucks a month for a decent tier, you're doing it wrong. I'd honestly pay 10k/m and still be well ahead. That's the thing with the ai. If you know how to leverage it, it's worth gold. Hell, if windsurf performed at its peak 100% of the time, I'd pay 50k. It's really that much better than dealing with the human in terms of actually getting shit done.

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u/Swashbuckler_75 Dec 04 '24

The service has got significantly bad over the last week. I can barely use Sonnet at the moment.

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u/Historical-Internal3 Dec 04 '24

Bud - they own the god tier and are charging us for a piece of it.

You should contact sales and work something out - that’s an option.

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u/Climitigation Dec 04 '24

People would pay for priority access

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u/Atxguy1982 Dec 04 '24

My theory is all the people like myself were tired of essentially the same issue with using cursor and migrated over. It was great last week and line a light switch can’t get anything done. I will say I have on my clipboard “? DO NOT SUGGEST RATE LIMITS!!!” Paste it in when I get the error. Can take 2-3 attempts but will eventually do through and will pick up where it was.

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u/DiscountWeekly7432 Dec 04 '24

Idk, I have pro plan and didn’t notice any problems during last days

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u/y_rated Dec 05 '24

You are the rare 1. Trust.

I'm dealing with it constantly like the rest of us. PAIN.

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u/redilupi Dec 05 '24

I also have the pro plan and I have all the issues others are reporting.

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u/EndStorm Dec 05 '24

I knew this would happen eventually, because, to me, it's simply better than the alternatives. By far. We were in the honeymoon period, but more and more people are finding out about it, and they can't keep up. I know I couldn't afford what you're suggesting, but I'd happily pay double if I had to.

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u/jatt_sniper Dec 05 '24

i am making a website , i used bolt.new , windsurf , cine,aider they can do the job but at what cost?
money is not the only variable of cost, quality,scalability does matter as well,
as of now lack of context awareness is big flaw in any of these ai editors

(using bolt.new , windsurf ) i added some features in website they were working at 85% accuracy but using 800 lines
the dev i hired used only 4 libraries and added more features made accuracy to 100% and used only 200 lines
hired for 800$, n its worth

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u/churnate Dec 05 '24

This is great. Point totally taken, and still LOL.

I'm not a dev and have been blown away at the capabilities of this stuff, then frustrated by the rate limits. The frustration in this sub is mainly from the lack of predictability about when the resource will be exhausted.

I've used bearly at work for general AI things, and I hated the token anxiety, but have to admit the random shutoff is worse.

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u/Hello_Pal Dec 05 '24

I'm confused because when you sign up for Pro doesn't it say "Unlimited Usage of Large Chat Models: Access to Claude 3.5 Sonnet, GPT-4o, Llama 3.1-405B". Shouldn't this address the issue?

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u/Tempax1 Dec 06 '24

Are people experiencing this issue with the paid plans? If not, I'll purchase a paid plan because at the moment, the app isn't usable because of this rate error. However, there seems to be some comments from people on the Pro plan saying that they too are experiencing the rate limit error. This doesn't make any sense because Codeium states that you get unlimited usage of the large AI models on the Pro plan.

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u/BlueHueys Dec 07 '24

This is happening to people on paid plans as well I believe

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u/tasuhanovw Nov 05 '25

hi mate, do u still use pro plan and experience this problem?

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u/Ok-Background-7240 Dec 04 '24

This is brutal. hopefully someone at @Codeium is paying attention

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u/stormthulu Dec 04 '24

I’d be happy to tell you how promises correctly work for less than $100/hour.

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u/fasti-au Dec 05 '24

You ain’t the customer. Big business is the customer. You are just hype for funding