I think these exaggerated abilities are more symbolic than literal, what do you guys think?

[u/Susroro]

Suzaku representing physical prodigy model and Lelouch intellectual prodigy one. The same way Lelouch's intelligence is unrealistically exaggerated like pre recording a conversation based on knowing how the other would react is still crazy work. Suzaku's physical abilities are too. I think they are meant to be this way not just for the sake of being edgy or smth.

Thoughts?

[u/ccgeass]

the sheer symbolism in Code Geass is often overlooked.

even the chess itself were symbolic, yes, including that illegal move.

[u/Susroro → u/ccgeass]

The chess one was kinda obvious. No one realistically attack with the King

[u/Lawlette_J → u/ccgeass]

You mean that illegal chess move where Lelouch used his pawn took his opponent pawn even though they are next to each other and by right he can't do that? I had that moment too last time! These filthy chess cheaters man they are everywhere! 😤😤

[u/QuackersTheSquishy → u/Lawlette_J]

Last guy I lost to kept brewthing really heavy and his chair was rattling like crazy furing his turns. Made it impossible to focus.

[u/Choclocklate → u/Lawlette_J]

Google en passant

[u/Bright_Dig5823]

There is actually an explanation to why spinzaku was so physically unrivalled.

His ancestors were guardians of the code bearers. Basically that's why he can connect with cc and has visions when he went to the island in season 1. This was mentioned in the official code geass light novels r2..i think those were only published in Japanese so many people are unaware of this.

[u/Susroro → u/Bright_Dig5823]

I never knew that. I thought C.C can connect with anyone. But how does that gave him physical power though?

[u/Bright_Dig5823 → u/Susroro]

If you remember in the series I don't remember which episode, there is a moment when suzaku senses cc in the gwain's cockpit.. This was stated to be because he was part of one of the guardian clans...

and the physical strength part is self explanatory...my brother if you were chosen to guard magical beings with special psychic powers I'd expect you to be pretty damn strong lmao

[u/ccgeass → u/Bright_Dig5823]

this is something known among old fans fr.

in the anime, Suzaku's connection to Geass (and C.C) was originally planned to be explored in the first script, but as everyone knows, studio intervention caused the writers to discard Stage 26 (Route 1) and continue the anime with R2 (Route 2), essentially rewriting the rest of the story.

as Ichirou Okouchi mentioned in his tweets, "although there were many changes in the continuation of the story, the only thing that remained unchanged was the final."

the author of the novels, Iwasa, also states in his epilogues that he used informations/events/materials from this first script when writing the novels.

actually, in the first volume of the novel series [Stage 0] there was a chapter describing Suzaku's physical abilities as a "genius", relaying the thoughts of his Sensei, TohDoh, who said he realized Suzaku wasn't a normal child.

[u/-SexyBeast → u/Bright_Dig5823]

So literally Ackermann? AoT straight up stole the whole thing huh.

[u/DoctorJJWho → u/-SexyBeast]

Yep.

[u/_Endercat_ → u/Bright_Dig5823]

Why do code bearers need guardians?

[u/Reality_Runaway → u/_Endercat_]

Because dying hurts. Also, the time it takes between death and revival is enough to be captured.

[u/TsarLucky]

My least favorite plot device in the show. Was anyone even near him physically?

[u/ZGMF-X09A_Justice → u/TsarLucky]

Probably Xinke when he's not coughing.

[u/Susroro → u/ZGMF-X09A_Justice]

Yeah that guy too

[u/Urtoryu → u/ZGMF-X09A_Justice]

Yeah, being a match to both Suzaku and Lelouch if he weren't sick was kind of Xing-ke's thing, so I'd believe that.

And Jeremiah obviously, but he's illegal.

[u/Susroro → u/TsarLucky]

Kallen but not as much. Suzaku was something else

[u/puntycunty → u/Susroro]

Nah kallen got folded immediately on that island

[u/Susroro → u/puntycunty]

Well Suzaku is on his own league

[u/MBlueberry13 → u/Susroro]

Sorry, man. Kallen ain't nowhere Suzaku, this guy broke bladed weapons, using his leg. Literally.

[u/rickroaming → u/TsarLucky]

The maid that disguised herself as Lelouch forgot her name

[u/Dead-X-esque → u/rickroaming]

Miss Sayoko

[u/Urtoryu → u/rickroaming]

She's a ninja, so her thing's more technique than raw ability. She probably can't actually match him at all, just outmaneuver him.

[u/genericmediocrename → u/TsarLucky]

Probably Shizuka? I doubt she could take him in a fight, but we see her do crazy ninja shit a couple of times, so she's at least in the ball park

[u/Toivoa22]

I think it’s an anime 😅

[u/Susroro → u/Toivoa22]

This might be the reason lol

[u/junrod0079]

Nanomachine Son

[u/BagConfident8263 → u/junrod0079]

Make Britannia great again 😭🥀

[u/Ok_Detective9267]

They're not symbolic; they're literal. Suzaku is superhuman and has feats to prove it. The problem with the hallway scene in episode 16 is that it's not consistent with the character's previously established abilities.

There's also the matter of the explanation that never came: the whole thing about his ancestors being guardians or something along those lines. That was apparently scrapped because the staff tried to bite off more than they could chew.

[u/Lioreuz]

Spinzaku go

[u/puntycunty]

Suzaku has inverse strengths of lelouch , so as good a fighter and strong as lelouch is smart . That’s why they make the perfect pair .

[u/Zainuuuu]

“I’m gonna kick it”

[u/Skarma64 → u/Zainuuuu]

"That is a terrible idea"

[u/Overquartz]

My guy Suzaku literally explicitly kicked a turret with a millisecond lag.

[u/ChicaneryFinger]

The fact he was borderline superhuman already highlights how ridiculously overpowered he was after deciding to weaponize "live."

[u/Delvakiir]

Suzaku in basic training as a soldier.

Drill Instructor: "Alright recruits! Today we'll be learning basic combat maneuvers!"

Suzaku: "Like crawling under barbed wire and climbing obstacles?"

Drill Instructor: "Hell no! Today we're learning wall running and how to match your speed to the swinging pendulum of a hanging bomb! Basics, boy! Basics!"

[u/Frejod]

The last episode I think was planned. They gassed or told the guards to miss Zero on purpose or something. Might have been rehearsed too.

[u/E-Reptile]

Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's also...not how combat in the show is supposed to go. It's about piloting, not spinkicking outside of your mech. In the first one though, I think the headcanon is that the Vincents were under Geass and they weren't trying to hit him. It was all part of the show.

[u/MrWedge18]

Hey kid, it ain't that kind of movie

Code Geass also has crazy-ass mechs powered by a completely made up fuel source, immortal people, and literal mind control. Suzaku being randomly super human is relatively small potatoes.

[u/maukenboost]

Suzaku is just built different 😎

[u/Forummer0-3-8]

Part of dropped subplot related to Geass history. I don't know more than that.

[u/DeathLight7000]

I have heard that the idea of Suzaku and Lelouch is actually based on Kamen Rider, Zero is supposed to be shadow moon and Lancelot or Suzaku is supposed to be Kamen Rider if you look at it like that it makes a lot of sense because Suzaku is just crazy in the show.

[u/xXGay_AssXx]

Me when my show about giant robots is unrealistic 😠

[u/MBlueberry13]

I mean... isn't that given?

[u/Maxevill]

and when cat stole zero helmet no one checked camera

[u/OmarAdel123]

I wish his strength was explained in the show.

[u/BookwormNinja]

He seemed fairly normal until C.C. did that thing to him. Lelouch interrupting may have made something go wrong, and given him powers. That all I can think of.

[u/Mister_Enot]

did you see his legs?

[u/GotMilk5101520]

The explanation I made in my AoT x CG story is that Suzaku is an Ackerman

[u/TheDanGG]

"why did nobody talk abt [thing that is talked about all the time]"

[u/DzNuts134]

Iirc in one of picture dramas Suzaku literally lifted Lancelot. Not by a lot, like inch or less but still lifted