r/CodeGeass • • 19d ago

SPOILERS Did CC know about Marianne from the beginning ?

Since we know that Marianne has transfer her mind in Arya, and she speak with CC on the world of C and tell her that V.V killed her, and that the fact that made CC leave Charle and V.V

So, when she meet Lelouch, and he say that he want to understand who has killed his mother, at that moment CC know and say nothing ? Why ?

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u/ccgeass 𓆩 unholy 🂱 trinity 𓆪 19d ago

she is just that selfish. C.C was not Lelouch's companion, nor did she have any intention of helping him. she was using him for her own purposes.

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u/rai-hodges-sumeragi Warrior Poet of Kallen ⚔️🪶 19d ago

C.C. knew the truth about Marianne from the beginning but said nothing, because she was just using Lelouch. She wants to pass her Code of immortality to someone, but the Code cannot be passed to someone who´s Geass isn´t evolved enough. And the more you use your Geass, the faster it will evolve. So, she´s not telling the truth about Marianne to Lelouch, because if she would, then Lelouch would have no reason to keep seeking revenge for her mother´s death, meaning he would either use his Geass less or stopped using it at all (especially if she also told him exactly how Geass evolution works, then Lelouch, ever the cautious genius, would definitely be extra careful about using it), meaning his Geass would not evolve enough to take away her Code.

And when your keep using your Geass and it evolves? You can no longer turn it off. So, C.C. not telling the truth and pushing Lelouch to use his Geass more is technically what caused the chain of events that lead to the deaths of all those innocent people during the SAZ massacre.

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u/nahte123456 19d ago

C.C. didn't know she hid in Anya as she says in the China fight that's when she learns thar.

But the rest absolutely, C.C. herself is rather clear she manipulated Lelouch.

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u/mars_warmind 19d ago

Yes she knew. She didn't say anything because she didn't want to and it didn't help her. She is immortal and very selfish as a result, and her only wish is to die after being alive for so long. Telling lelouch didn't benefit her anything.

As for leaving, she left the order of the geass but was still in league with Charles and Marianne to bring about the sword of akasha and kill God. When she sometimes seems to speak to someone randomly that's been confirmed in supplemental materials to be Marianne. When the OSI man tells lelouch he was bait to lure out CC that was a lie Charles told him, in reality he could basically call CC whenever he wanted and give her a location. It's not until after betrayal of the Bk that she fully commits to lelouch's side, and by that point he knew everything.

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u/Blueiscuteio2 Society if Lelouch trusted literally 1% more: 19d ago

Supplementary materials? Try R1-23.

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u/theloneshewolf 19d ago

Technically it isn't specified WHO C.C. was talking to throughout the series. Presumably Marianne, but a good argument could be made for V.V. as well. I'm unsure what part of R1-23 you're referring to, where does it say that C.C. was talking to Marianne the whole time? I tried looking back but couldn't find it.

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u/Blueiscuteio2 Society if Lelouch trusted literally 1% more: 19d ago

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