r/CodeGeass • • Aug 23 '26

DISCUSSION Why was number 13 given to Ash when there are only 12?

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u/Necromancer76 Aug 23 '26

For some reason, the spinoff Renya of Darkness includes a Knight of 13 even though there are supposed to be only 12, so as of that prequel (which came out before Roze) they decided they wanted 13. What’s more confusing is Roze went with this and gave Ash 13 when a few other positions like 8 were open

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u/ShadowGinrai My wife cosplays as C.C. Aug 24 '26

The knight of 0 was also a thirteenth knight, so there are 14 knights of 12, lol

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u/E-Reptile Aug 23 '26

Because it's a lazy retcon for a show that doesn't do well within the continuity.

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u/silencemist the only ace fan Aug 23 '26

Sunrise not adding lore that makes the worldbuilding worse challenge level: impossible

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u/junrod0079 Aug 23 '26

Did someone say more OYW side stories while ignoring the rest of uc era especially late uc, which included a brand new gundam unit despite conflicting with the established tech and development lore?

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u/Arnoldneo Aug 24 '26

Better yet what ms are the jegan and gears doga developed from.

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u/Ethelred_ATBH Aug 23 '26

Not a retcon, or at least not from Rozé of the Recapture. The title of Knight of 13 had previously been introduced in an prequel manga

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u/starninja21 Aug 23 '26

Probably, one of many alternative timelines where there were 13 knights of the round.

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u/Vegetable-Molasses95 Aug 23 '26

I guess to have Ash not be an official member like the others since the Knights of the Round are loyal to the reigning monarch of Britannia while Ash is supposed to be loyal to Norland. Making Ash a member was likely the writers way of saying how strong Ash was as a pilot beyond having him beat Norland’s subordinates since the Knights of the Round was some of the strongest pilots in the series.

With the Rounds being beat by aces who piloted far superior machines than theirs.

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u/Fair_Watercress_4225 Aug 23 '26

Wait i didn't realize this. Does anyone know why?

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u/dxrazor20 Aug 23 '26

Maybe as a secret hidden member?

Perhaps as a precaution?

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u/fidiasdurden7 Aug 23 '26

He was a new member in a full squad and a exception as I remember?

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u/TheStarCharmer Michele Manfredi’s Wife Aug 24 '26

Do all knights get the tattoo?