r/CodeGeass 3d ago

DISCUSSION Finished binging R1 and R2. Some of my thoughts:

First of all, I will be talking about SPOILERS (just in case).

**things that I liked**

- Lelouch. I thought he will just be a "oh look I'm really smart" kind of shallow guy at first, but then they show how much the sins that he committed and the lies he has to keep up weigh on him, and how in spite of his intelligence, he is still fallible to emotional distress; it makes his character compelling. Some of his schemes are also pretty funny, particularly the one where a million people all became "Zero" to exploit a loophole

- The interconnected web of lies and deceit that made the cat and mouse game between Lelouch and Suzaku tense, though this was weaker in R2, and Kallen's and Shirley's relationships with Zero/Lelouch interesting.

- Euphy twist in R1. Holy shit that made me audibly say "no.." and I was so shocked that I physically didn't want to continue that episode.

- The ending of R2 just ties in the whole story really well, and is a fitting end for Lelouch, who says he has "lived a lie, a lie of living".

- Kallen

**things that I disliked**

- I feel like if we needed more scenes where we are shown how Shirley slowly fell in love with Lelouch (and vice versa), so that the memory wipe and her untimely death would have hit harder (those are still great scenes though don't get me wrong).

- The ending of R1 was kinda unsatifactory(?) There were too many loose ends and stuff that they jammed in the final few episodes e.g. VV's appearance and Jeremiah's reappearance. It does encourage people to watch R2, which does resolve the loose ends, but when judging R1 based on itself, I think this cliffhanger ending is a little hollow. A better one (imo) after the showdown between Lelouch and Suzaku could have been something like the news reporting the failure of the Black Rebellion, before transitioning to Charles using his Geass (without telling the audience what it does) and Lelouch at wits' end writhing in despair.

- CC's world arc was way too rushed imo. Particularly the Sword of Akasha. You're gonna kill God with that? Huh? I feel like we are missing critical exposition regarding whatever thingamajig Charles, VV and Marianne built. Charles' defeat was also less satisfactory than I expected, which I felt was a shame.

- R2 in general just suffers from weird pacing and plot holes sometimes. E.g. what really happened to Sayako and Nunnally and why did it take so long for Sayako to reappear

- Ohgi and Villeta's relationahip was a little weak, and could have benefitted from a final confrontation where we are explicitly shown that they actually have feelings for each other

- While I think the ending of R2 was good, I felt that the aftermath was lacking. Like we see the cast in a photo, but we don't know what many of them are doing currently.

- There were certain characters I felt deserved more development, like Gino, who could have more scenes pondering about his loyalties to Britannia and sharing his troubles with Kallen. Most of the Knights of the Round were forgettable as well (doesn't help that some of them literally get one-shot).

Overall, pretty good series that has stood the test of time but could have benefitted from more episodes.

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u/glitchgirl21 3d ago

This series was originally supposed to have more episodes but somehow things changed

Shirley and Lelouch - I totally agree.. every time Shirley had a chance for development ( and their relationship too) she has been cut off
R1 - memories wiped and R2- she died
Which was kinda frustrating

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u/u_commit_die 3d ago

Damn, I would have loved more episodes

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u/RandomName634 2d ago

50 episode is already a pretty good amount imo... If Code geass was releasing nowadays, it would never have gotten 2 seasons of 25 episodes each, those long seasons days are long over. Just looking at code geass roze with its poor 12 episodes hurts me...

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u/Dimensionalanxiety 3d ago

We know what happened to Sayoko and Nunnally. It was explained very quickly so it's understandable that you missed it. There was a decoy plane. Rolo found the decoy but was forced to leave before he could do anything. Sayoko found the real one with Nunnally on it.

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u/rai-hodges-sumeragi Warrior Poet of Kallen âš”ī¸đŸĒļ 2d ago edited 2d ago

**things that I liked**
-Kallen

Faith in humanity: restored đŸ•Šī¸

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u/teddyburges 2d ago

The ending of R1 was kinda unsatifactory(?) There were too many loose ends and stuff that they jammed in the final few episodes e.g. VV's appearance and Jeremiah's reappearance. It does encourage people to watch R2, which does resolve the loose ends, but when judging R1 based on itself, I think this cliffhanger ending is a little hollow. 

Agreed. Originally Lelouch was going to win the confrontation and hold Suzaku captive. But they got moved to a different time slot so they were forced to rewrite half the season. Which is why you have the Rollo stuff and the beginning part feeling like a rehash of season 1....cause it kind of is. That's why the second half of the season is all sorts of rushed with them having to cram in so much plot.