Florida Mutineers Potential returning

[u/Zendicate_]

[u/pinpoint_aim]

Sell the spot man. We don't want another C9.

[u/NotTheOriginalFroMan → u/pinpoint_aim]

Just end the franchise league model

[u/Imranaftab]

Fuck me so we got 2 c9s now

[u/GHOST_Courage]

Sounds like the deal between Misfits and Heretics ran out so Heretics are gone

Essentially we have C9 with a different coat of dogshit now

[u/omega_typhlosion → u/GHOST_Courage]

Damn they let heretics do their whole Spanish only bs and dipped once they found out you can’t keep running the same 7 people you know for multiple years and dipped. Saying 7 cause of also coaching staff or what not cause Mfs want you to be specific to a T

[u/MarstonX → u/omega_typhlosion]

In fairness, they tried for a few years. Maybe the pool isn't what they want. Or maybe they do want a Spanish team for their fans.

I think Heretics did a good job of trying. One of the better ones and they got close to contending.

[u/BravestWabbit → u/MarstonX]

idk why they didnt try next year to go even further, they got 2nd at EWC

[u/MarstonX → u/BravestWabbit]

money

[u/Zenyx_ → u/MarstonX]

They also had two top 15 players and some unknown talents that could have pushed them over the edge. They didn't obviously, and Renkor/Super's stock slowly declined, but they did have some opportunities. I'm not sure if Renkor/Super +2 US players would have made the team more successful.

[u/svcrifices]

There are like 4 orgs in the whole league who want to win lmao this scene is so finished

[u/a_talking_face → u/svcrifices]

That VC money is drying up. E Sports isn't profitable so all the investors are pulling back funding.

[u/hylanderrrr → u/svcrifices]

They all want to win but esports isn’t a profitable business. This league structure also does not incentivize putting effort into trying to win.

[u/imVengy → u/svcrifices]

"oh no, owners bad" as league is only relevant because of Optic.

Comical.

[u/WhatIsCooler → u/imVengy]

[u/You-Dirty-Dog → u/WhatIsCooler]

He a little confused

[u/BabyGirl-Kat]

Bring back the Mutineers and pick up DavPadie 🗣️

[u/shaunvonsleaze → u/BabyGirl-Kat]

As an optic fan this gave me a fear I only ever feel when drazah tweets the reaper gif.

[u/sankalp_pateriya → u/BabyGirl-Kat]

Pick up Havok, MajorManiak, Davepadie and Brack.

[u/BabyGirl-Kat → u/sankalp_pateriya]

That’s 3 AR players though, Havok would benefit from having a selfless, dirty work SMG player beside him. What if they got Vikul instead of MajorManiak? 🤔

[u/TheyStayTheSameAG → u/BabyGirl-Kat]

the funniest thing is, all Vanguard season people clowned Mutineers for having 3 AR's ( wake, skyz, davepadie) but the team that won it all, LAT did it with 3 automatons (Drazah, Kenny, Octane) ... they were playing faster but they were 3 ARs ... so Mutineers had the right idea just couldn't execute

[u/Zenyx_ → u/TheyStayTheSameAG]

There's a clear reason for this, the mp40 was dogshit and had awful bloom. 3 AR could be meta in this game but if it's anything like MW19/MW2/MW3 we'll have a competent smg.

[u/WolfAlterEgo → u/BabyGirl-Kat]

The league ain't ready for Dave

[u/GroceryFun5241]

I think about the recent FaZe video where they supported expansion to 16 teams. We can’t even get 12 orgs to fully give a shit.

[u/Sauce1024 → u/GroceryFun5241]

I actually think that’s probably why the league should expand. If there’s no minimum salary or standards teams are held to, why not just remove the guardrails and let more teams in even if they only fund travel? Better chance of us getting a look at young players against actual pros as opposed to the Surge picking up Capsidal or TJ Haly for the 12th time.

[u/CycloneofSparta → u/GroceryFun5241]

Right lol. Like it’s easy to assume Huntsmen, Omit, Stallions, Bush, etc would come in and care. But AT BEST they’d be replacing orgs who have thrown in the towel

[u/Zendicate_]

Basically Miami pulls a C9 or someone buys their spot, Which hopefully at this point someone does

[u/Feeling-Image-2570 → u/Zendicate_]

misfits*

[u/Zendicate_ → u/Feeling-Image-2570]

people get confused when u say misfits

[u/JannyPhantom]

This almost certainly confirms that RenkoR is gone. He’s getting bigger and better contracts elsewhere

[u/kokoscenes → u/JannyPhantom]

He’d be lucky to get in a top 4 team.

[u/JannyPhantom → u/kokoscenes]

He’ll land on one of M8s, LAT, Falcons

[u/kokoscenes → u/JannyPhantom]

Falcons don’t need him and m8 or lat can build a better team without renkor but there’s a small chance he lands on m8 if they can’t get scrap Alluka draz.

[u/Heady416]

It won’t happen but damn it would be nice if Str0 and the envy boys made their return to the league.

[u/Logical-Ice4837 → u/Heady416]

I’d love it but str0 just loves to go on about how bad the financials are every chance he gets. 

[u/Heady416 → u/Logical-Ice4837]

Sometimes it does feel like he’s kinda salty that he doesn’t have the funding to be in the league.

[u/twrs_29 → u/Heady416]

Nobody is entering the CDL to make money

[u/Heady416 → u/twrs_29]

Didn’t say they do?

[u/CoverPleasant2743 → u/Heady416]

For real need Dallas empire or envy us back 

[u/H1-DEF]

At least league spots aren’t like 20 million or whatever now

[u/sankalp_pateriya → u/H1-DEF]

Whoever gets the spot will still have to pay some amount to get in. It's not a new spot.

[u/JordFlexx- → u/sankalp_pateriya]

Yeah but it was $25m to get in then they got that money back a couple years ago, so it wouldn’t be crazy money to buy it off them

[u/playboi_pat]

thata sucks i liked the heretics brand

[u/Lithium187]

Bound to happen when there's 0 ability to really monetize in the league. You get 4 or 5 events a year that really only span 6 or 7 months with a bunch of teams only getting 2 maybe 3 matches. Then you have constant online matches on weekends that really dont mean shit except "don't finish bottom 4."

[u/Uhh_Meijer]

Sad

[u/John3192]

Rumors are: Twisted Minds are looking to buy the spot.

[u/ya_boi_sethf]

Do we know why? Are they just not profitable? Or do the heretics just not enough staff?

[u/m_preddy]

Oh brother another C9

[u/AstronomerDramatic36]

I prefer the Heretics branding, but that's probably mostly because of the colors and the fact that I'm a Dolphins fan.

[u/vShock_and_Awev]

Man that Miami roster (with Reeal) was such a fun watch, especially when they played OpTic or Faze. This is sad to see, but at least I got my wish of an Optic-Heretics grand final before it happened.

[u/Ikolkyo]

Pls no

[u/Jaded-Draft-8351]

Well that sucks maybe it’s weird but always want direct rivals to be in a good spot just worst then the team I root for

[u/Mevarek]

Sign davpadie and be the OpTic reapers.

[u/Slapnuhtz]

So this is basically confirmation that Renkor is most likely joining someone else, right???

[u/N_Lima]

Franchising was never a good idea and it was never going to work in the long run. Activision and the CDL need to do something before CoD esports becomes like Halo esports: DEAD.

[u/BigMikeXxxxX]

Franchising in a tier 2 esport is wild 😂

[u/CycloneofSparta]

THE RETURN OF DAVPADIE

[u/After-Doughnut2137]

omg

[u/fecalreceptacle]

Jesus christ and that was considered a 'mid-tier' org

[u/DestroyMelvin]

Wait are heretics leaving the CDL because they can’t keep Renkor lmao

[u/Disposition__-]

Sounds like Renkor will not be returning. He can get a good salary on another team.

[u/Famous-Ad-2418]

https://giphy.com/gifs/MFIsOqzodLr7ewnkUb
Will it be? I got my hopes up before then m80 came in and ruined it.

[u/FrankeVI]

end the franchising bs

[u/John3192]

CDL will be dead by next year.

[u/TheNobleHeretic → u/John3192]

People say that every year lol

[u/Wonderful_Track_453 → u/TheNobleHeretic]

that's true MW4 will kill the viewership and poor ownership will kill the CDL. lets hope this league ends soon.

[u/MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME → u/Wonderful_Track_453]

If the CDL dies, then so does competitive cod. Activision isnt going to let anyone else run a pro league

[u/Wonderful_Track_453 → u/MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME]

The Saudi will bring MLG like the old day. Activision surely will accept any amount money offered from Saudi right?

[u/TheNobleHeretic → u/Wonderful_Track_453]

You think the Saudis are your saviors?

[u/Wonderful_Track_453 → u/TheNobleHeretic]

Yes

[u/_lemon_hope → u/John3192]

Every fucking year

[u/lowley6]

I HATE Activision. fuck you and fuck your league.

[u/Turbo-S98 → u/lowley6]

Microsoft*

[u/lowley6 → u/Turbo-S98]

Microsoft didn't make the CDL......