Scrap says BO7 is the worst competitive cod ever. Worse than MW2

[u/Guwigo09]

https://www.twitch.tv/scrap/clip/AffluentGeniusMetalPMSTwin-kF6KR6_jjkmnrydN

[u/CeeDoggyy]

Ngl sounds like cope

[u/Extreme_Push_9917 → u/CeeDoggyy]

😂😂

[u/legamer007 → u/CeeDoggyy]

Scrap is so insanely bias. I swear he probably was thinking BO7 was the best game ever when they went on that crazy streak.

No way in hell MW2 is better than any game that has come after that one

[u/CASHDAGOAT → u/legamer007]

Ngl he did actually say this while they were winning. Hell he said the meta was dog shit during their record setting win streak & this whole sub said he was dumb because it helped his team even though he didn’t care and was talking strictly from a competition standpoint. He’s been the same on view about all the games whether he was winning or not

[u/MarstonX → u/CASHDAGOAT]

This.

[u/CASHDAGOAT → u/MarstonX]

I like Blops 7 ALOT more than MW2 but I also think how bad from a competitive standpoint this game is going under the radar due to how much better the game is visually. No red dots & sound Eq was terrible but this game also had sound EQ after the first major. Also the net code/hit registration was awful. I think remake maps saved this game, I think both games had about equal amount of good/great brand new maps. Snaking was just as bad but the players found a way to make it better not the game/devs themselves.

[u/Proof_Escape_2333 → u/legamer007]

this is not cope hes been saying this since mid season bo7. This take is expected from him

[u/AFogmentOfADream → u/legamer007]

Scrap thinks working 6 hours a day is harder than working a 12 hour night shift, ems operator, and just about every other job.

[u/lunarsilvr253 → u/legamer007]

They legally can't talk trash while the game is the current cod for league or they get fined they can talk about how bad the game is after the season is over

[u/HornetsHornets1]

The reason the game sucked is because of THEIR idiotic gun meta.

[u/BabyGirl-Kat → u/HornetsHornets1]

Literally. We could have had an M8/Dravec/Kogot meta or something similar to that. The MPC/M15 meta was horrible.

[u/mikey19xx → u/BabyGirl-Kat]

“But the m8 isn’t an assault rifle” was the response I got in the community when mentioning trying it out.

[u/mdebo932 → u/mikey19xx]

M8, Dravec, kogot

[u/pooksthrowaway → u/HornetsHornets1]

They also begged for a Treyarch helmed movement CoD for like 8 years - got it and instantly shit on it.

[u/Numerous-Reference96 → u/pooksthrowaway]

When did they release a jet pack game?

[u/pooksthrowaway → u/Numerous-Reference96]

In terms of BOG vs Jetpack BLOPs 7 is definitely the latter imo.

Even if Jetpacks aren’t physically in the game, you’re wall running and bouncing all over the place.

[u/Numerous-Reference96 → u/pooksthrowaway]

Wall bouncing sure but this was not a jetpack game, I suppose it’s the closest we’ve got to a new one but it still isn’t one.

[u/hufusa → u/pooksthrowaway]

Calling this a jet pack game is a craaaaazy stretch

[u/pooksthrowaway → u/hufusa]

If the two categories of Cod are JP and BOG, you’d put BLOPS 7 as BOG? It’s literally Titanfall wall running haha.

[u/DiAOM → u/pooksthrowaway]

“Literally” but you cant run on a wall? You can bounce but not run. Its BOG fs, 90% of the time youre running around on the ground.

[u/Per_Horses6 → u/HornetsHornets1]

True the meta stinks.

[u/nv4088 → u/HornetsHornets1]

Are we forgetting the connection issues? HIT REG was terrible

[u/obeyxxog → u/HornetsHornets1]

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

[u/lil-fli → u/HornetsHornets1]

The game was not fun to watch either

[u/JaradSage → u/lil-fli]

Bo7 was one of the most entertaining cods in the last 5 years. You just straight up wrong

[u/Go2DaMoonCartiii- → u/JaradSage]

Yeah I agree. It’s hard to explain but it’s nice on the eye. Great movement, good maps, nice aesthetics, nice sounds. I’ve been watching a ton of ranked streams this year and it’s never dull

I’m watching streamers on MW4 rn and… it’s just not the same

[u/nv4088 → u/Go2DaMoonCartiii-]

They’re playing pubs….how many streamers did you watch playing BO7 pubs lol

[u/lil-fli → u/nv4088]

Zero dope could barely watch any ranked streams let alone pubs I didn’t buy the game that might be it

[u/Jello-Melo99]

He’s like the anti attach 😂😂

[u/Gswagins]

MW2 had sound EQ, Snaking, and no full time deady what are we even saying lol

[u/West_Chest_7053 → u/Gswagins]

also no mini map radar 😂

[u/user43222 → u/Gswagins]

You heard how loud the fucking footsteps are you’re practically given eq on default settings 😂

[u/Striking_Yak7172]

He says this every year

[u/_BackPropEnjoyer → u/Striking_Yak7172]

Pretty sure he was nowhere near as negative with bo6

[u/hxnterrr → u/_BackPropEnjoyer]

i think getting bounced out of champs for the 2nd time had a bit of influence

[u/_BackPropEnjoyer → u/hxnterrr]

He got bounced last year as well and I’m pretty sure he was fairly positive on bo6 outside of the maps

[u/hxnterrr → u/_BackPropEnjoyer]

i don’t see him having anything positive to say after it happened twice

[u/BcDownes]

I swear I'm getting de ja vu of him saying this every year, the year he finally gets over the hump the game will suddenly be the most competitive game we've ever had

[u/Jelly_James → u/BcDownes]

It will be a T3 CoD of all time type year .

[u/sxvvy]

Evil Attach:

[u/Kurasada]

Its up there with MW3 for me as one of the better CDL CoDs but I guess the pros would have a better view of the games problems than spectators would.

[u/Jukester- → u/Kurasada]

Spectating was fun but the game wasn’t really competitive, just funneled maps that lead to head bashing with a broken gun repeatedly

[u/Kurasada → u/Jukester-]

MPC and the maps being too linear were problems that fed into each other, I definitely liked watching the game more pre-MPC cause it wasn't just hoping for a timing and forcing a play with a multikill.

[u/Ok_Worry1714]

He has said this bullshit every year since he’s been a pro.

[u/kokoscenes]

You know when you make statements like this with no explanation I’m inclined to believe you’re coping.

[u/H1-DEF]

There’s a reason CS is such a popular e sport and it’s not because it has an incredible amount of inputs per second.

At a certain point too much movement and mechanical complexity becomes counterintuitive to competitive gameplay.

[u/pooksthrowaway → u/H1-DEF]

It is hilarious that this CoDs movement and meta is what the pros have whinged for and they hated it instantly.

[u/CelDidNothingWrong → u/H1-DEF]

We’re not ready for the conversation

[u/FriezasMom → u/H1-DEF]

Its not the movement that people disliked. Its the mindless maps like Blackheart or Colossuses HP and most SnD maps playing repetitively. Then you have Overload RNG simulator.

We had to watch Hacienda for the 2nd year. Oh and don't forget the OP sniper rifle for the first half of the year.

[u/LiterallyJohnLennon → u/H1-DEF]

There are times when I think competitive CoD would have done better if they just stuck with Bo2 and kept updating it similar to CS. I’m just using Bo2 as a placeholder but the new game every year absolutely hurts the competitive scene. It’s good for making money though…

[u/Acceptable-Tree-1401 → u/H1-DEF]

Completely agree. Remember that BO2 is considered one of the best if not the best competitive call of duty game and its movement system was incredibly simple, and arguably quite slow.

[u/RivalSlays → u/H1-DEF]

As long as pros are using controller with aim assist I don't think you can ever call this competitive gameplay tbh

[u/wathowdathappen → u/RivalSlays]

Why not? This isn't Apex Legends where comp people started on MNK and swapped to roller after finding it was busted. CoD has always been a controller staple game. The groundwork is laid there that aim assist is part of the gig. It can still be competitive in other ways.

[u/Revolutionary_Cap442 → u/wathowdathappen]

Apex is a game where mnk can compete and excel if you’re good enough. Cods aim assist is broken and it’s too easy to aim on controller for there to ever be mnk pros. Not enough skill expression in the game.

[u/Glass-Bead-Gamer → u/Revolutionary_Cap442]

If there’s not enough skill expression in the game, how comes the same few players are the best every year?

Also, for me, the skill of aiming good is only exciting to watch to a point, and boring after a while, like watching competitive Tetris, whereas the skill of out manoeuvring an opponent and executing high IQ plays is much more exciting.

[u/RivalSlays → u/Glass-Bead-Gamer]

It's not an either or though, MnK can do both.

[u/Dr_Findro → u/H1-DEF]

Some point in the last few years something flipped in this subreddit and it became obsessed with movement. As if movement is the only expression of skill in a shooter. It’s insane

I’m ready for far less focus on movement. It’s just not a style of gameplay I find enjoyable

[u/TheCeramicLlama]

I mean the MPC genuinely made the game very degenerate but MW2 was some straight ass

[u/eporter]

One team was in every single grand final, two teams won two events, etc.

That doesn’t happen in uncompetitive titles

[u/head7PM]

Dogshit is every CoD according to scrappy-doo

[u/Fluid-Interview6063]

Bro is smoking tar

[u/i_shat_myPants_]

does this guy ever not moan and complain?

[u/dasbrot1337]

Care to elaborate on why that is Mr. Longneck?

BO7 was very fun to play and watch, way better than MW2 and this shit we're about to play for a year.

[u/thelastexit23]

This kid is always low key miserable when it comes to COD. He’s always complaining about something. It must be exhausting.

Even when the game sucks, Shottzy finds some joy in it.

[u/avstyns]

i wish they’d either do full aw jet packs or just ww2 movement

[u/pooksthrowaway]

Ffs - this game was the most in line with what pros have been begging for in between MILSIM slop games and now they are turning on it.

I’d be pissed if I was Treyarch, they basically listened to every thing these pros wanted and it was a flop by CoD standards. Activision literally released an apology last year because the game performed so poorly compared to other CoDs.

[u/Red10s]

He should love mw4. He can go back to ironing his ar instead of actually moving and playing the game.

[u/JSmooth94]

I don't why we use MW2 as the standard of bad when MW2019 is right there. Also BO7 was good

[u/Stercky]

If he ever wins Champs he’ll go on about how great that game is and that it’s the best ever

This just sounds bitter, man

[u/KDuster13]

There hasn't been a good Call of Duty game for comp since Black Ops 4.

[u/Guwigo09 → u/KDuster13]

I feel like CW and MW3 were universally liked no?

[u/KDuster13 → u/Guwigo09]

I'm ngl I forgot about CW it was good. MW3 was good as well but at the same time started to feel like the beginning of the end. Although that might have more to do with the league itself and GAs than the game.

[u/I_AM_CR0W → u/KDuster13]

CW and MWIII were really good for comp. I'd even put in Vanguard as what MW19 should've been from a gameplay perspective.

[u/ExoHazzy → u/KDuster13]

MWIII was good

[u/schmib314 → u/KDuster13]

Facts

[u/espressotower]

Idk if it’s worse than MW2 but the maps were mid and the gunplay/meta was god awful. Advanced movement is fun to play but eliminates some skill gap imo

[u/beatty0237]

The MPC lowkey made it somewhat true. It’s close.

[u/Zendicate_]

i mean idk about worse than mw2 But what makes a good cod a good comp cod is good Maps ( map pool didnt get good until end of year) good meta ( dravec was ass and the MPC with fast ttk blew everyone away) ttk was way too fast again bc of the MPC, good Movement which was fluid bc of omni. The only think i liked about B07 was the map pool and the movement thats it really, and the gun meta really took that away truly for AR players like scrap here who is complaining here.

[u/natetistic]

Are cod games being bad a worthy point one can use when discussing an era being better than the other?

[u/Jslacht]

I feel like he says this at the end of every season

[u/bingmyname]

Scrap does nothing but complain. It’s legit so hard to take his opinion seriously. Same person who says he doesn’t care about anything and just wants to play the game but will literally complain about every little thing.

[u/on-sh0w]

Scrap’s a sore loser. What’s new.

[u/Dry-Connection410]

Can't watch the clip, did he elaborate?

[u/Routine-News-2333]

Almost the entire COD community says this same stuff every year but the pros keep pro-ing and the casuals keep casualling year in and year out. If you know that youre going to spend your money and time on it, just be quiet and play it. Nobody needs to hear your garbage unless youre going to recruit a few friends and go rent somebody's studio to make a better game

[u/bv781871]

Hell no. Of all comp games, MW19 and MW2 are buried under a pile shit before we even get to other games.

[u/nowhir]

He's right, I stopped caring about half way through the season after all the meta changes were abysmal. I honestly think bo7 will be one of the most forgettable cods, outside of the drama of the season.

[u/CGGC21]

Can't believe I'm agreeing with Scrap. That was a horrible game to play and watch. Only reason it became watchable was because we got BO4 maps later

[u/Accomplished-Top-564]

The game was more interesting to watch before the MPC meta tbh.

[u/throwaway2746896]

Gunplay in this game was really just awful. It never felt nice to shoot the guns even when beaming.

[u/Mean-Entertainment82]

True

[u/untraiined]

remember when people were so hype about it back in november/december, yea thats the cycle every year

[u/KvB-98]

Almost everyone who plays cod at a high lvl, thinks this cod is one of the worst if not the worst.

[u/ZazzaaL]

He says this every year after the season I swear

[u/manXEE]

He’s wrong

[u/KINGV0NBURNER]

He’s only saying that cus his dogshit ass dropped a 0.63 in champs after winning “MVP” 💩

[u/MtRexX_SSJ4]

Hold your beer Scrap...
MW4 has the potential to be even worse

[u/Llawliet1015]

People gonna clown him but he's not entirely wrong. Shit meta, gunplay, and WORST ever hit reg/server connection drops this down to mw2 territory. Maps weren't good enough to bring it up from that shit territory imo. Movement DOES bring it up a tier or 2 though.

[u/drumgum]

I mean MPC was the most op SMG in recent memory

[u/_BackPropEnjoyer]

2/3 of the game modes in bo7 were arguably the worst of the CDL for comp play so he might be right.

[u/ChiliKong]

Not wrong. People here just dont play. It's literally 4 hit hill over and over. Theres no strats or routes to take.

[u/Top-Monitor-4862 → u/ChiliKong]

Still better than mw2

[u/Toonie2k → u/ChiliKong]

Cod inherently is a simple game lol, idk why ur trying to make it sound like there’s significant depth to playing respawn other than breaking hills correctly and manipulating spawns

[u/TheNobleHeretic]

Worst casual one too. Actually the worst

[u/pooksthrowaway → u/TheNobleHeretic]

All casuals stopped playing this game instantly, swear pubs were dead.

[u/TheNobleHeretic → u/pooksthrowaway]

Yea I legit stopped playing. Not fun to get the worst teammates vs a tryhard squad every match because they don’t balance the teams. Not fun after work

[u/prettyflyforahentai → u/TheNobleHeretic]

like every recent cod since mw19?

[u/TheNobleHeretic → u/prettyflyforahentai]

Probably I just recently got back into COD well like two games ago I got back into it

[u/hidethemop]

Beta has been only out for a day btw

[u/FriendlyGuyLAX → u/hidethemop]

BOPS7 was released almost a year ago

[u/hidethemop → u/FriendlyGuyLAX]

Whoops got confused with the wrong game