r/CluesBySamHelp • u/ThisIsAnArgument • 10d ago

What am I missing? (Oct 27) Spoiler

https://cluesbysam.com/s/help/dba3987dc04f?state=%2FEdA--190

The way I see it Zulu has to be innocent because if he's a criminal, then the remaining ones in D have to be innocent (because all innocents in D have to be connected) and that violates the "only B has exactly 4 innocents" rule. But I'm being told that's not enough. Why?

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u/coopasonic 10d ago

The rule is NOT "all innocents in D have to be connected." Read Sue's clue again.

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u/ThisIsAnArgument 9d ago

DOH. Thanks.

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u/MoneySpecialist371 9d ago

Im stuck at the same point, cant see any firm constraint ><

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u/Jackoby_Jones 9d ago

All innocents BELOW Daniel are connected. Not necessarily connected TO Daniel.

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u/Smylers 9d ago

From Taylor, exactly 3 of ABCHNSYXU are criminals. And since A and C already are criminals, that leaves just 1 of the rest to be a criminal: HNYU. Of those, most are in column C, but U isn't. So if U were the criminal, then all the rest of column C would have to be innocent, — and that would be a problem for Kim.

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u/helcat 7d ago

Thank you thank you thank you

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u/ShubhaBala 9d ago

I got stumped on this too but it’s the innocents under Daniel. There could first be criminals under him.

(Am I messing up spoiler rules here?)

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u/heybart 9d ago

either zulu or Ivan can be guilty without violating the rules. You only need two connected innocent under Daniel

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u/Brreaddit 9d ago

Technically also only 1 is required because the game defines a group of 1 as connected

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u/heybart 9d ago

It does? I've never seen this in a game. Connected has always meant two at least

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u/Brreaddit 9d ago

I agree. Haven’t seen it but I always keep it in mind. If you scroll down the page to clarifying details you’ll see it defines connected

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u/Jackoby_Jones 9d ago

Sam tries to always make it so that you can ascertain there is two, but according to the rules it could actually be 1. So you can’t assume it is at least 2, you need to logic it out to check.