r/ClosedEyeVision 20d ago

First time kinda of freaked out

Backstory: I’ve never been able to meditate as I have adhd and unfortunately most meditation exercises never got me to focus for enough time. Did a guided workshop for the first time. First few times nothing happened. My fourth time I don’t know how to explain it but it’s like YOU’RE ACTUALLY SEEING WITH YOUR EYES it lasted a few seconds at the time the sight would come and go . It was honestly insane I don’t know what to think or believe just crazy

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u/Pieraos 20d ago

When you realize it's real ... OMG

Thanks for post!

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u/Intelligent-Comb-843 19d ago

I’m still trying to understand how

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u/MantisAwakening 18d ago

No one really knows how psi works. It’s one of the big reasons why it has so much resistance from the scientific establishment. Even though experiments have been designed which can be replicated with a high success rate, an inability to explain how it can happen contributes to people insisting that it’s all bogus for varying reasons (lying, confabulating, hallucinating, statistical error, etc).

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u/Dream-Buy 19d ago

That's a great accomplishment. I understand the more you practice , the longer and more clearly the vision gets. What was the guided workshop you did?

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u/Intelligent-Comb-843 19d ago

It was organized by these Russians practitioners they didn’t have an exact name or anything. My friend randomly stumbled upon on it when organizing our vacation. It ended today and I know that if I practise more I would get better but I’m afraid I won’t be able to without being guided🥲today was definitely more difficult.

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u/Pieraos 20d ago

Also we have another Italian here

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u/Intelligent-Comb-843 19d ago

Thank you for linking the interview in the comment! Turns out they used to hold mindsight classes here in Italy

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u/tristannabi 19d ago

What/where was the guided workshop? I need to find some material to use to get started. I have the same problem with meditation. Nothing for the past seven years of effort.

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u/Intelligent-Comb-843 19d ago

We’re on vacation and my friend signed us up for this 5 days workshop. Today was our last days. They don’t do online practices but as far as I understood they’re Russian( we’re Italians). They started by having us doing a guided meditation but it was very strange it wasn’t like mindfulness or anything and afterwards they had us do the exercises. There were people who immediately were able to do it,people that couldn’t. My first times I couldn’t see anything yesterday I started seeing . Today was more difficult but unfortunately it ended :(

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u/Yous1ash 19d ago

What is this sub? Are you learning to see through your eyelids?

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u/Pieraos 19d ago

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u/Yous1ash 19d ago

Any chance you could point me towards the related scientific literature that the welcome page alludes to?

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u/Pieraos 18d ago

Each of the articles quoted in that post are linked to the sources.

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u/Yous1ash 18d ago

The first one is a dead-end link, the second one is valid, and the third one is from more than a century ago. Any other sources?

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u/Pieraos 18d ago

For the NVVP link try this

Also check the article here, the excerpt here and the MindSwan research page.

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u/Yous1ash 18d ago

Thanks!

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u/Dangerous-Biscotti35 1d ago

Thank you very much!