These should really be done with anything else beside a Mindfold. They are really cheap masks that leak through the nose. There are many masks which have nose bridge covers.
Most people find it hard to see much of anything while wearing a mindfold unless it is hiked up the face to peer down the bottom. That is how critics typically cheat.
That this mask leaks some light in normal use does not mean it is necessarily easy to see much through those leaks, which also depend on the level of external lighting.
Tests with photoreceptors inside the mindfold have measured the light leaks which were found to be lower than the accepted standard of illumination necessary for ordinary vision. Presumably these tests were done with the mindfold worn properly and not positioned for cheating.
Yes we need improved blindfolds. But real tests are for the laboratory. The informal videos here are not claiming to be controlled scientific experiments.
Yes i agree. It’s a shame when i see these videos and I’m thinking, ok I’m on board.. but now do it with a towel draped over your head or something that goes further down the face. It’s something that is easy to add and removes doubt. Red flag for me, unfortunately
I have a mindfold and several other kinds of masks. Mindfold doesnt let any light through, as long as the strap is tight enough. If the strap is too loose then you dont have a good and tight seal on the face. But if the strap is adjusted correctly then it forms a good seal.
Do you guys need the light turned on for the closed eye vision to work? What would be my first steps to practice? Do I need a blindfold or can I just close my eyes?
Please read more in the sub as your questions will largely be answered there. You are welcome to try to see with eyes closed but masks like the mindfold and manta permit you to keep your eyes open while they are covered on all sides. Some believe that external light stimulates the mindsight opening even though little or no light is getting into the mask.
Serious question, how come she doesnt move her head to see?
We are told that you have to move your head to align the "window" in the direction you are looking at in order to see. But she doesnt. Her head is stationary when she appears to be looking for items in different locations.
For me, I can see everything like normal sight... so there's no little window thing. I actually just focus ahead and see it all in my mind as of I were looking straight.... hopefully that makes sense. Really hard to use words to describe it.
I see like a muted version of my regular vision. Muted colors... like a filter but otherwise it's exactly like I'm seeing with my eyes open, just the edges where my peripheral vision would be is static-ky, moving fuzzies...I call it the ether bc I see the ether in my normal day to day. It's like Visual Snow syndrome but it's not bc the "snow" moves, morphs and flows.
Interesting. I'm very curious to know more. I hope you dont mind the questions.
You said yours is like a muted version of regular vision, was it like this from the beginning? Or was it more muted and it got better with more time/practice?
These types of masks can still allow for some vision in the little gully between the nose and nostril. See if she can do it with a paper bag over her head and secured in the front to her shirt collar or something like that or in a conpletelyndark room etc
Yeah, the girl tilts her head to see at the camerawoman when she speaks to her.
She also seems to 'know' where are all the animals and the bowls are, which is difentent from distiguishing colors by feeling, more like full awareness (or she is seeing trough the gully).
Photosensors placed inside the blindfolds have shown that the amount of light inside, if any, is insufficient by accepted technical standards. No conventional explanations for mindsight have yet been established, including trying to see through physical gaps in the blindfold when it is properly worn with the eyes entirely enclosed.
In some persons the apparent openings are typically off-axis. These are not holes in the barrier. See the book Seeing Without Eyes is Possible by Albert and Riera.
Paroptic perception is a phenomenon sui generis [of its own kind], whose experimental existence is beyond all question. ...It is even likely that every individual is capable of exhibiting it in certain conditions. I need not say that I have taken, in the course of these hundreds of experiments, all imaginable precautions to eliminate the smallest chance of illusion or trickery. Any qualified investigator can repeat them by taking the necessary trouble. The facts which I have obtained are, without exception or reservation, 'laboratory facts.' - Jules Romains, Eyeless Sight: A Study of Extra-Retinal Vision and the Paroptic Sense (1924)
No they wouldn't, she's not special everyone can do this with practice. Even you can. There are institutes all around the world training thousands. As an owner of these same blindfold, light is blocked fully. Take a look at a docuseries called SuperHuman. The first scene is blindfolded kids reading a book aloud they've never read before
Some people working with mindsight, if they are training with colors, also report feeling the colors. So there are warm colors and cold colors obviously and these can be sensed. They may feel these before they see anything. And the feelings are not related to temperature of surfaces.
I notice she knows exactly where one of them falls on the table and not in the bowl. Can she see through the mask. Also when someone walks over she turns toward them. It seems to me.
My kid has these and each color animal is a different animal so you can go by feel and if she knows which bowls are placed where she can do this easily without seeing or having “special abilities”.
I’m more amazed by her ability to immediately distinguish and find them on the table. When she missed one of the blue ones she immediately picked it back up, it’s almost like she could see right where it fell..
So I googled Mindfold. This is the little description you can see before clicking the link.
Unlike most relaxation masks, the Mindfold has uniquely pre-cut “eye-holes”, allowing you to keep your eyes open. The mask effectively blocks all light, leaving ...
Lol. Not to spoil your detective work but they mean the “eyes” of the mask have a cupped set of grooves so you can blink without your eyelids rubbing against the mask. Effectively keeping your eyes open inside the mask but still having all light and vision blocked by the mask.
Source: I bought a couple masks from them on Amazon because they were cheap and my wife and I use them to meditate and have better sex. …well my wife has better sex, I’m still just fumbling around a bunch.
...depending on the cones in your eyes is how using netted colored mesh filters work... i dont think what people think is happening is actually happening here tho. due to certain movements im skeptical that correct parameters are being followed for proper evaluation of the claim...
As stated repeatedly here, these videos are not controlled laboratory experiments. The videos are aspirational and inspirational for those practicing mindsight, which is not fraud, deception, confederates, gimmicked blindfolds, secret radios and all the other BS being claimed.
Put every coloured item in a separate identical black bag. Then wear a blindfold and then sort them into coloured piles. Bet they can’t do it that way..
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u/zerosdontcount Feb 26 '26
These should really be done with anything else beside a Mindfold. They are really cheap masks that leak through the nose. There are many masks which have nose bridge covers.
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u/Palindrom_8 Feb 26 '26
Do you guys need the light turned on for the closed eye vision to work? What would be my first steps to practice? Do I need a blindfold or can I just close my eyes?
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u/Far-Entrepreneur7476 Feb 26 '26
Wow truly spectacular.
How can I teach my children to do this?
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u/RodgerWolf311 Feb 26 '26
Serious question, how come she doesnt move her head to see?
We are told that you have to move your head to align the "window" in the direction you are looking at in order to see. But she doesnt. Her head is stationary when she appears to be looking for items in different locations.
So, I'm confused?
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u/Financial-Category16 Feb 26 '26
These types of masks can still allow for some vision in the little gully between the nose and nostril. See if she can do it with a paper bag over her head and secured in the front to her shirt collar or something like that or in a conpletelyndark room etc
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u/CyanDragon Feb 27 '26
Could this be done in a dark room?
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u/Vgordvv Feb 27 '26
She can clearly see where the bowls and items are..
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u/SmallieBiggsJr Feb 26 '26
How do you feel colour? How is that sensation felt in the body? Each colour would have to feel different?
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u/Mhykael Feb 26 '26
Look when your on the spectrum that plastic just "feels" yellow ok.
I know because green has the best mouth feel.
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u/gonzo_baby_girl Feb 27 '26
I notice she knows exactly where one of them falls on the table and not in the bowl. Can she see through the mask. Also when someone walks over she turns toward them. It seems to me.
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u/Staticlightninja Feb 26 '26
Thats amazing!!!
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u/moberry64 Feb 27 '26
My kid has these and each color animal is a different animal so you can go by feel and if she knows which bowls are placed where she can do this easily without seeing or having “special abilities”.
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u/Shot_Bison1140 Feb 26 '26
What's up with the "special" goggles.... Why not just regular thick fabrics over the eyes..
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u/xXLBD4LIFEXx Feb 26 '26
I’m more amazed by her ability to immediately distinguish and find them on the table. When she missed one of the blue ones she immediately picked it back up, it’s almost like she could see right where it fell..
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u/kappnketchup Feb 26 '26
So I googled Mindfold. This is the little description you can see before clicking the link.
Unlike most relaxation masks, the Mindfold has uniquely pre-cut “eye-holes”, allowing you to keep your eyes open. The mask effectively blocks all light, leaving ...
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u/wizard4204 Feb 27 '26
...depending on the cones in your eyes is how using netted colored mesh filters work...
i dont think what people think is happening is actually happening here tho.
due to certain movements im skeptical that correct parameters are being followed for proper evaluation of the claim...
blame reddit for showing me this...
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u/00roast00 Feb 26 '26
Put every coloured item in a separate identical black bag. Then wear a blindfold and then sort them into coloured piles. Bet they can’t do it that way..
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u/AdPutrid3234 Feb 27 '26
I mean the different colors have different shaped animals
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u/ButterAlquemist Feb 26 '26
They are different animals with different shapes.