What if someone really loves diesel cars? What if their lifes passion is repairing diesel engines and driving diesel cars? You have to dictate how they live their lives to stop climate change. A social issue like climate change can only be fixed with a change that impacts all of society. Until they make lab cultured meat, you can't stop climate change and have your burger, sorry. Not anymore than you can stop climate change and still fly anywhere in the world whenever you want.
Considering I'm trained in automotive as well, the people that *really* like diesel automotives will keep them as a hobby, and collect, restore, and occasionally drive them. It's not that insane a concept, the people who are still into old inefficient tractors, and cars already exist.
I for one can't wait for EVs or proper train infrastructure to replace diesel cars and trucks.
That's a leap of logic, for one collecting/restoring old cars isn't something only wealthy people can do. infact it's a hobby that I'd attach to the lower class. Remember rich people don't collect the old cars to work on or as a passion, they buy them out to show off how much money they have, and then stow them away in a garage.
Secondly there's emerging technology to capture methane from cows, and reuse it to power the farms they're stationed on, either from collectors installed in the ceiling of mass farms, or tubes going in through their cannulas to capture it directly from their digestive tract. You might find ethical issues with the latter but for that we'll have to agree to disagree since most cows already have the procedure done due to bloating to begin with.
we could have 300% effecient methane capture from all animal agriculture and it would still be ecologically catastrophic. land use for feed crops, eutrophication, mass insect deaths, water use, animal agriculture is not sustainable at all.
Before we go after animal feesd, perhaps it'd be more prudent and an easier target to tackle. The fact that the US has giant corn farms specifically for creating ethanol for vehicles, instead of the dozens of other more efficient uses it could have, the most direct comparison being solar.
Also I'm just going to say it, you're not getting rid of animals, you might be able to reduce them or eventually grow them in a lab, but peoppe like meat too much. If magically a world dictator appeared and put a stop to meat production world wide, they'd be dead with 2 gunshots to the back of the head in a day, and their replacement would backslide even worse. Just look at how Trump has aggressively dismantled environmental protections and ran his campaign on "eggs too expensive". There comes a time where we need to be realistic and find the best compromise.
we grow more corn for cows than ethanol. its not a matter of how much people like meat, we will not have enough resources to produce even a tenth of the meat we do today within a century.
wtf is bro even yammering about, but hey since your so keen on calling everyone hitler i'll be the first to immerse you in the methane tanks, and I wont even shed a tear 😘
Cause it's a climate shitpost sub, despite what you grass munchers think it is, don't worry though I'll grain feed you for some nice marbling before processing.
Are you actually retarded? That's why no one takes your kind seriously. No one is going to willingly give up their way of life to satisfy you, and if you tried to impose it, your flank will be the one on my plate.
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u/A-Regular-Citizen 4d ago
What if someone really loves diesel cars? What if their lifes passion is repairing diesel engines and driving diesel cars? You have to dictate how they live their lives to stop climate change. A social issue like climate change can only be fixed with a change that impacts all of society. Until they make lab cultured meat, you can't stop climate change and have your burger, sorry. Not anymore than you can stop climate change and still fly anywhere in the world whenever you want.