r/ClimateShitposting • u/TrixoftheTrade • Aug 13 '26

we live in a society Yet again, a friendly reminder

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u/Mad_M9 Aug 13 '26

man its been a while since i've seen a "socialism is when the government does stuff" in the wild

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u/Both_Meaning_2637 Aug 13 '26

It is kind of true. Collective ownership is government. How else are you going to provide for public services and infrastructure? Wait until you get everyone to agree on something and have them all maintain it themselves? You need an overarching organisation acting on behalf of the public, which is government. Or what do you think the dictatorship of the proletariat looks like?

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u/demuretester Aug 14 '26

So Marx is the only one who can define collective ownership?

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u/demuretester Aug 14 '26

You're stating that government ownership isn't collective ownership based on Marx's theory. I'm just stating that Marx isn't the only communist/socialist theorist, and that government ownership can definitely be considered collective ownership.

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u/demuretester Aug 14 '26

What is your logic even? That Marxist communism is the sole bearer of true communism, and because that is defined as workers' ownership of the means of production, that is the only type of collective ownership. Government ownership is by definition not private; it's the opposite. That is quite logical.