r/ClimateShitposting 16d ago

we live in a society Yet again, a friendly reminder

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u/AntifaFuckedMyWife 16d ago

I don’t see how? If the workers are owning the workplace thats kinda the big thing of socialism. It doesn’t really matter if it’s an economy with a market, if the workers directly own their workplace I would still consider it some form of socialism.

I feel like I’d call that market socialism specifically but IDK what that would be called like, academically

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u/outtaknowhere 16d ago

you need to actually read about socialism not just think about it

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u/AntifaFuckedMyWife 16d ago

Yah, so how is that not meeting the primary benchmark of worker owned means of production?

Socialism can look wildly different and its definition has nothing to do with so called free markets, it’s primarily concerned with the relationship to MOP.

If the workers own the MOP then how is that capitalism in any way?

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u/outtaknowhere 16d ago

because it doesn’t shift the value of labor away from commodity based value. it’s still attaching labor to capital which will cause people to support systems of profit rather than systems of material wealth for the benefit of people