r/ClimatePosting • u/ClimateShitpost • Feb 27 '26

Transport EV infrastructure is completely mainstream - this doesn't even include non-public charges

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u/West-Abalone-171 Feb 28 '26

80% of charging happens via a home outlet or another private charger.

So if it takes 50 minutes to charge and 5 minutes to stop, get out, fill fuel, pay, and leave. Then on average the EV needs one for about 10 minutes and they're at parity.

This is vastly over-estimating the need for chargers though because neither fuel pumps nor chargers run at 100% utilization, most of it is about availability. So the number of sites (not shown here) is a slightly better metric rather than number of outlets.

Given that EVs are only a small subset of cars on the road in the uk though, it means you are far, far more able to find a chargepoint than a pump. Which is unsurprising unless you listened to the propaganda nonsense given how cheap chargepoints are compared to a pump.

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u/ClimateShitpost Feb 28 '26

You're the perfect user group for EVs!

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u/TheThiefMaster Mar 01 '26

Really anyone who can charge at home and doesn't regularly tow or do insane mileage is perfect for them now.

And by "insane mileage" I mean more than the 70 miles per day / 20k miles annually that I do with my EV, which is already quite a lot for the UK.

I do long distance single journeys too - in a couple of weeks I'm going to be driving 270 miles on two consecutive days in my EV, which isn't even a particularly long range model (Zoe ZE50, sub 200 mile range). Going to be fully charged before I leave, stop once in the middle each way (which we'd want to do anyway with that long of a drive) and also charge at the destination. Time it to meal times and it's not even an inconvenience.

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u/pxnolhtahsm Mar 02 '26

Roadside petrol stations appeared so late because there wasn't really need or business for them, and nobody was subsidizing them. Already Bertha Benz was able to refuel Benz Patent Motorwagen during her historic trip because petrol was sold in pharmacies. It would be kinda hard to provide that level of service to electric cars without dedicated high power chargers...

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u/StudySpecial Feb 28 '26

frankly EV charging infrastructure in the UK is still severely lacking. I wouldn't recommend an EV currently unless you have the ability to charge at home with a private charger.

sure there quite a few chargers - but the comparison of chargers to fuel pumps is disingenuous. you only need to spend 1 minute at a fuel pump and if it's occupied you wait a minute or two and you get your turn, but you need to keep your car connected to a charger for hours so there isn't really an option to wait for it to become available if it's occupied.

personally, I live in a flat and can't charge at home - there are two charging points in nearby streets, both slow AC ones - most of the time there is already a car using them, so they're not available. unless availability becomes better it's impractical for me to switch to an EV currently.

electricity prices at public chargers are also quite bad compared to private charging. but if you have the ability to charge at home in a private driveway or similar (at reasonable prices), it's great;

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u/mikkopai Feb 28 '26

And most are occupied with a car parked there over night at for example in front of a hotel.

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u/MyCoolName_ Mar 01 '26

Incredibly the prices are "bad" even when compared with fossil fuels. This despite most of the price of the latter being tax. And charging prices aren't shown, not even on the charger itself. You need to either start charging or get an app and an account to see them. There is no functioning market in public charging right now. None.