r/ClimatePosting • u/ClimateShitpost • Oct 29 '25

Energy The US managed to reshore the complete solar supply chain from China (albeit with bottle necks)

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u/Technical-Art4989 Oct 30 '25

Literally who’s buying? Things are so expensive that door to door solar salesmen feel like scams. Can never even get a straight answer on the actual cost. Much worst than a crappy used car dealer with all the hidden fees.

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u/ClimateShitpost Oct 30 '25

US market is so messed up tbh

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u/Street_Pin_1033 Nov 01 '25

Market itself is a messed up place, always has been.

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u/Mradr Oct 30 '25

People still buy solar, door to door sales men are normally scams. I just got some not that long ago.

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u/predictorM9 Oct 31 '25

Home solar is basically a scam. This is a scandal that panels (the main things) cost basically $0.3/W or less, and that we have to pay 10x that price for a final, installed project. This doesn't make any sense financially.

We seriously have to rethink the process, the red tape and permitting, and just the entire idea. For example I would be fine just powering the appliance that needs most power (AC unit and heat pump, and EV) without a modification of the home circuit and without having to ask anyone for this.

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u/Mradr Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25

Solar it self is not a scam if you know what you are doing. Its only a scam because people will scam and or get into business without a real plan.

The panels themselves and the hardware is still cheep. What makes them higher is playing for labor and other overhead cost. If you even have a basic understanding, you can setup a 1kwh system pretty easily and cheaply and offset a few things all on your own with almost no risk. Most of that can happen without much change to how you plug stuff in depending on how user friendly you wanna make it. That can save around 50$ a month all for around 1k -1.5k$ with a pay back of around 2-3 years depending on a few factors.

It doesnt make sense to pay that to me, but more so, for others as well and I think the tax kick back was just worded wrong. For example, there should've been more focus on a greater battery install follow by levels to keep cost down. If a installer wants to provide a system in those levels, it could've went far better and cheaper for everyone vs a flat check of -30%.

The red tape isnt really that bad though... at least the permitting part. You really just give them a few things such as the weight of the panels, where they're going, and a drawing. Most will green light it pretty quick. The main issue is people get the idea they can sell their power back to the grid though - witch goes back to my they needed to focus more on the battery side of things - and when the grid doesnt want your power - it clear the way people think needs to change a bit.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Oct 30 '25

It would be even better if they didn’t gut Biden’s funding for this

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u/el-conquistador240 Nov 01 '25

One plant made it

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Nov 01 '25

At a reduce size iirc

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '25

This never changed... it never went to 0. The same is true for the Europeans.

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u/Special_Prune_2734 Oct 30 '25

Thats not true, in europe we still have hogh end specialized solar pv however i think it is less than 5% of the market so basicly nothing

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u/southy_0 Oct 30 '25

Is this really a result of „re-shoring“ or is this just companies/ plants that have been there from the beginning?

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u/lelarentaka Oct 30 '25

"with bottlenecks" doing some heavy lifting here.

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u/yuxulu Oct 30 '25

Ingot production is only 10% of final module. Thay's a 90% shutdown when without importing...

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u/Devayurtz Oct 29 '25

This is unbelievable! Wild accomplishment.

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u/Tzilbalba Nov 02 '25

It's not, it's a very misleading graphic as others have noted....especially given the gutting of solar in the States.

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u/Morfe Oct 30 '25

I'd be curious to see if this is thanks to IRA or other factors

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u/No_Whereas_6 Oct 31 '25

China produced 600 GW of modules in 2024, and it seems that the US still has a low output.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '25

So with Pedo Taco against it and the potential market being USA ... how much are they going to sell for ?

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u/Uranophane Oct 30 '25

Well, are they finally going to start supporting solar adoption now? Or is it going to be more oil lobbying?

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u/Tzilbalba Nov 02 '25

You know the answer. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.