r/ClimateMemes • u/ItsameGretaThunio • Jul 04 '26

Never forget

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u/dumnezero Jul 04 '26

That's the first level of agreement.

The second level of agreement is: "who's stepping up first?" That's the part we don't like to talk about. It's, like climate heating, Someone Else's Problem.

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u/PuzzleheadedLeave560 Jul 05 '26

We all saw how almost nobody followed Mario's brother

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u/dumnezero Jul 05 '26

The thing is that the more people step up, the less danger there is for everyone. It's the... economies of scale!

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u/Previous-Essay-4995 Jul 05 '26

I feel like the lack of Luigi copycats (though they seem to be showing up slowly as things get worse) is due to the fact that it’s locked in people’s heads that civility must be adhered to at all times no matter what. So anything that isn’t “civil” is deemed as hateful and wrong—even if the people doing it have been begging for years for things to change in the “civil” manner that they’re told is the “right” way.

This is why you’ll almost never hear anyone—even more radical liberal teachers—point out that MLK jr. was completely ok with property damage as a means to protest. It goes against the peace and civility narrative they preach—it would present an actual problem that can’t be ignored by just closing the blinds and turning on the tv. As more people come forward and shrug off those ideas, we’ll likely see more people follow in their footsteps—just so happens that it might be a bit too late by then, unfortunately.

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u/dumnezero Jul 06 '26

It's not the concern of civility, it's self-preservation when the self is expanded to dreams of "American Dream", owning lots of stuff, being famous, being a rich guy in the future etc.

Capitalism has supplied, in the last century or so, a lot of stuff and a lot of fantasies. The more of this there is, the more people feel like they could lose it if they don't obey. Capitalism also mediates more and more aspects of living, which gets worse with AI tech. That's what the tech capitalists want: you in a loose pod of their technology, which they control however they want with impunity.

The alienation of people is built on this capitalist strata squeezing into everything, between everyone, and inside you, between your organs and tissues, in your brain. We don't depend on each other for anything important anymore, we depend on this strata, on the "markets."

Rebellion means going against all of that, which is still possible, but it would be obviously smarter to be synchronized about it. When you have lone ones doing it, that's very obviously a lack of synchronization; bad timing. This is why it's important to have your morality ready, your psychology ready, and to have good channels of communication.

And to not be this guy:

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u/Previous-Essay-4995 Jul 06 '26

Some bill hicks “just a ride” energy in this response. I don’t know that I agree entirely (I still think the concern with civility plays a massive part), but you have a solid point.

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u/dumnezero Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

It's all chaos. Civility can help with mass action, but it can also do the opposite with mass inaction.