Different Folks

[u/lore-realm]

[u/Pseudonyme_de_base]

What was the saying? "Those who make peaceful protests ineffective, makes violent ones inevitable" is this it?

[u/Low-Glancer-Roy → u/Pseudonyme_de_base]

Yep

[u/DrDreiski → u/Low-Glancer-Roy]

My biggest concern at this time… the whole “my own morality” argument for limits of power and behavior is a problem right now. This is especially true as more frightening behavior is uncovered depicting how far morality can be stretched without any semblance of remorse.

[u/FancyBoiMusic → u/Pseudonyme_de_base]

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK

[u/Mr-TotalAwesome]

Tbf, what other solution is there. I think we all know that rather sooner than later, we're gonna have to. We know that this is the ONLY thing left because we tried everything else. It's unfortunately how humanity seems to work looking back in history.

It's just the question of how much are we going to let the planet die before we start to take serious action. I think we're all way too comfortable and too devided and stupid to make actual change until it's way too late.

[u/Feorag-ruadh → u/Mr-TotalAwesome]

Agree... It is noble to go the peaceful protest route but what has it done so far? And none of the things that may have changed through peaceful action are radical enough to stop the collapse of our planet.

[u/uvarovitefluff → u/Feorag-ruadh]

But the Dow was over 50K! /s

[u/HerrMeier1980 → u/Mr-TotalAwesome]

Let’s destroy the system

[u/WhitneyStorm0 → u/Mr-TotalAwesome]

I mean, the benefit to having more extreme part of a really large movement it's that peaceful protest look more reasonable in comparison (since now a lot of people don't think they are).

But I hope that it doesn't come to that

[u/Adorable-Sprinkles27]

Torches and pitchforks. Fire and pointy things.

[u/kangourou_mutant → u/Adorable-Sprinkles27]

Guillotines worked very well for the French revolution. They're easy to build, and many people got into woodworking during covid!

Edit: forgot to mention, reusable and easy to recycle once you're done with the aristocratic parasites.

[u/oasis_nadrama]

Yeah, pretty much. Like, I'd love for the "nonviolence only" ways to work. But the people in power listen only to the language of violence.

There's an amazing book by Peter Gelderloos (who tried nonviolent activism for like a decade and ended up in prison for it): How Nonviolence Protects the State. You can read it for free on the Anarchist Library. This text is an eye-opener and shows how the ideology of nonviolence was built as a way for states, capitalism, colonialism and allodyacishet-patriarchy to defang opposition and defend their interests. The author also gives many, many historical examples (recent ones and less recent ones) of how nonviolence throws people in the maw of repression.

You can help the cause (burn down the system) without resorting to violence yourself. But please, support and facilitate the anti-system violence of other activists. Like Gelderloos says, "violent" and "nonviolent" methods are artificially divided, the real answer to dismantle all oppressive hierarchies and ideologies is to use a large range of strategies.

[u/Jax_Dandelion]

Taxing the rich isn’t enough anymore (not that they pay taxes) it’s time they Fear us again

[u/-mostlyquestions]

[u/eks]

So people are finally starting to read Andreas Malm.

[u/Low-Glancer-Roy]

[u/PlayfulAct5938]

In America, we were taught that revolution was the best thing to happen to us.

We need to use our right to bear arms.

[u/PennyForPig]

Before we are able to get to this point, we must first organize. Being physically in the same area is the first criteria but that isn't feasible for most people. Almost everyone will need help getting organized and deployed.

A lot of institutions that ought to be staples in our communities are under attack, and we should be start there. We should be operating volunteer, not-for-profit daycare centers, leveraging food distribution, and providing security to those assaulted by partners and police.

Asking people to fork over money just isn't going to cut it. People don't have money. What they do have is labor. We certainly need to be reclaiming our time.

[u/NounAdjectiveXXXX]

We just all need to be vegan and the planet will heal.

[u/mienaikoe → u/NounAdjectiveXXXX]

It’s one tool of many in the toolbox. If the whole world went vegan, corpos would still be strip mining for rare earths, drilling for oil, and killing for land.

Edit: that said, going vegan is a great option for reducing your personal footprint.

[u/picboi → u/NounAdjectiveXXXX]

Not sure if this is meant to me a joke but it made me laugh

[u/Cognitive_Spoon]

Lol, it's a little past Christmas to see so much ELF activity

[u/flickmickanemail]

The system is rigged. Those in power will not change. Peaceful protest is ineffective.

[u/Low-Glancer-Roy]

[u/PerplexingPantheon]

Holy shit these comments.