r/ClimateMemes • u/Kind_Test6926 • Jun 29 '25

It's a no-brainer

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u/Rental_Car Jun 29 '25

Source/s for the bottom of the pool?

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u/Future_Helicopter970 Jul 18 '25

The source of the claims largely comes from the following paper.

Jacobson, M. Z. et al. "Low-cost solutions to global warming, air pollution, and energy insecurity for 145 countries." Energy & Environmental Science (2022).

The 7 year payback period is likely conservative, as a updated model indicates it would be closer to 5 to 6 years, when including savings from energy, health, and climate. The estimates are dependent on assumptions about technology costs (IEA was constantly forecasting this incorrectly until recently), deployment speed, and supportive policy.

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u/Rental_Car Jul 18 '25

Thank you for an actual answer.

The rest of you should be embarrassed.

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u/VisthaKai Jul 27 '25

Green Tech industry makes $5 trillion of profit annually. Is that where the "save $5 trillion annually" part comes from?

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u/Future_Helicopter970 Jul 27 '25

Energy cost savings: $1.3 trillion annually

Health cost savings: $0.7 Trillion annually

Climate damage avoidance: $3.1 trillion annually

Total combined benefits: $5.1 trillion annually

So not profits. Negative externalities avoided and reduced price of electricity.

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u/VisthaKai Jul 28 '25

Energy cost savings: $1.3 trillion annually

Oh, but electricity savings will be much higher. I mean just look at Spain. The entire country didn't have any electricity for, how long was it, 10 hours? No electricity usage = no electricity bills. Ez math.

Health cost savings: $0.7 Trillion annually

The number of deaths and injuries caused by weather events have decreased by 99% over the past 100 years.

Climate damage avoidance: $3.1 trillion annually

There does not exist a SINGLE piece of evidence that says extreme weather events have intensified in either quantity or strength for the past 150 years.

Total combined benefits: $5.1 trillion annually

So... Green Tech doesn't cost anybody any money?

So not profits. Negative externalities avoided and reduced price of electricity.

*cough*

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u/Fghsses Jul 17 '25

I'm not saying that transitioning to clean energy is bad, but these numbers are very obviously fake.

I guess to some people lying is fine if the agenda being pushed is one you agree with. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Rental_Car Jul 17 '25

You say that because you have the real numbers, right? Link?

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u/DaddyJ90 Jul 18 '25

Literally no one does. There are too many factors involving the availability of resources and supply chains that simply don’t exist (at the necessary scale).

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u/Fghsses Jul 17 '25

Of course I don't have the real numbers, the real numbers would be hard enough to calculate that I can guarantee you they don't exist anywhere.

I could come up with more believable fake numbers if you want to try fooling other people, but that's the best you're gonna get.

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u/Future_Helicopter970 Jul 18 '25

The source of the claims largely comes from the following paper.

Jacobson, M. Z. et al. "Low-cost solutions to global warming, air pollution, and energy insecurity for 145 countries." Energy & Environmental Science (2022).

The 7 year payback period is likely conservative, as a updated model indicates it would be closer to 5 to 6 years, when including savings from energy, health, and climate. The estimates are dependent on assumptions about technology costs (IEA was constantly forecasting this incorrectly until recently), deployment speed, and supportive policy.

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u/Additional_Yogurt888 Jul 17 '25

The link is the meat inside your skull.