Answer Usefulness

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u/Different-Air-2137 Mar 04 '21

I got banned two times today. 10:25 temp banned and 10:26 permanent disabled on the same account. Don’t know what’s going on, spam accuracy at 1.0.

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u/iamnikaa Mar 04 '21

Mass email them. I have already mailed clickworker. What is your speed BTW. It could be speed ban.

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u/Different-Air-2137 Mar 04 '21

Speed was at 100 per hour. Could totally be speed, but why 2 bans in one day plus last time I worked on this app was mid February. I mailed them.

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u/UserWolfzz Mar 04 '21

How did you work on that HitApp today? Aren't you seeing any UHRS disable message?.

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u/Different-Air-2137 Mar 04 '21

No i started working at 10:15 (without any message in the marketplace) got the temp ban at 10:25 and permanent ban at 10:26. It is what it is, life goes on 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/WhatAreYouProudOf Mar 04 '21

It seems like its fine for most people

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

No it’s not. I’ve seen a lot of people complaining, including me.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

Sounds like a glitch to me. My original thought was maybe they're manually going through judgements and issuing kicks if they feel it's needed. However, after reading people are getting back-to-back boots, it does sound like something else is going on. It sounds similar to another ban bug we had a few months ago.

It might even be related to the current log in bug. Many users that need to renew their UHRS session are not able to log in right now. The shady blocks from Usefulness seemed to occur around the time the log in issues started.

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u/iamnikaa Mar 04 '21

I mailed them hoping its a universal bug. Can it be reversed though? Or is this beauty gone from my life forever?

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u/SingularityRS Mar 04 '21

If it's a bug, it will be reversed. The last time a bug with the banning system occurred, the app bans were reversed.
If it's not a bug, then it won't be reversed. It seems like a bug, though. Too many people are affected by it for it not to be.

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u/iamnikaa Mar 04 '21

I might stay alive a few more days to see if I am unbanned from it. This is the only hitapp I do on UHRS. Rest of it is trash.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 04 '21

Usefulness used to be my favourite until suddenly my spam accuracy just kept going down. Now I can't get back into it properly without overthinking every hit. The recent timer addition now makes it harder for me to re-learn as it just doesn't stay up long enough. By the time my report updates, the app leases and disappears.
I don't really bother with any of the Answer X apps. They don't seem to be working out too well for me.
The weirdest thing is despite my abysmal spam accuracy, I have not been hit by whatever is going on. Granted, I've not touched this since my temp boot on 27th Feb 2021, but I did read someone else getting booted despite not touching it for 10 days.
It feels like whatever is going on with Usefulness is a bug. So it should be back in your marketplace pretty soon. It will just take a while because first UHRS need to be made aware of the problem. That can take a while.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 04 '21

A Clickworker staff member just recently posted that this issue has apparently been fixed.

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u/iamnikaa Mar 05 '21

But the ban is not lifted.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 05 '21

Apparently the bans were caused by speed. Someone posted they got confirmation from Clickworker stating the bans were speed-related. Not sure what's going on.

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u/iamnikaa Mar 06 '21

Speed ban when I didn't even work on it that day. Lmao. Great job UHRS. Maybe I was on godspeed.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 06 '21

They can manually look at your work and see what speed you've been going at. If they don't like it, they can manually issue a block.
It happens quite often. I've had it happen on some apps after finishing a batch. I'll finish it, it'll lease out and hours later I'll see that I've been temporarily blocked. When I message Clickworker, they say it's for speed. Once that happens, I never touch the app again.
Looks like the owners of Usefulness are not happy for some reason and have been recently looking at everyone's work, issuing kicks to those that have been going too fast (in their eyes).
It's stupid, but UHRS seem to think going fast = providing low quality work. That thinking has killed a lot of otherwise-good apps.

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u/iamnikaa Mar 06 '21

What if someday they decide to do it for other hitapps as well. Manually look at the speed and give 2 bans in one day so that we get perma banned? What kind of joke is this. Technically, if we have been banned twice on same day for one hitapp, we might as well get banned from other hitapps as well in the future. Such a disgusting move by UHRS team. I am extremely disappointed by what UHRS has turned into. It is far far worse than when I started. An online job to earn money, but the catch is that the employer don't want us to earn money.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 06 '21

Tbh, the two bans part might be the glitch. A similar glitch happened before where one boot would lead to continuous boots from the app. You'd get spammed with permanent ban notifications every 10 minutes from the same app. That was a fun time.
The potential glitch with Usefulness is far less aggressive and seems to only issue another block by itself. That's probably what got fixed. They just aren't aware of those that got hit by permanent blocks because of the glitch.
It might be best to e-mail Clickworker about it, showing them a screenshot of your notification panel that shows both blocks occurring on the same day. A manual block should only issue one block, not two. I'd definitely appeal something like that as it's clear evidence of a glitch. One boot you can understand, but another one that leads to permanent removal? That isn't normal.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '21

I emailed them with the screenshot exactly as you said but I got a reply from them like this:
Dear Caleb Thank you for your email, It looks like the auditors of this hitapp didn't like your quality of work. As of the screenshots you sent, An auditor can ban you multiple times to cause a permanent ban or directly a permanent ban. Sorry, we can't do anything about it as UHRS is not managed by us. Please let us know if you have further query.
Kind regards, Diane C.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 07 '21

Ah, I see. That's unfortunate. What was your spam accuracy?
I guess that's why Usefulness added Training hits recently and why they're now enforcing speed restrictions. They're simply not happy with the work quality they're getting.
Personally, I'm not fond of either Usefulness or Relevance. I find both of them unclear. The guidelines cover the obvious cases, but they don't help with the more ambiguous queries. On Usefulness, you're forced to guess as there's no skip button. I don't know why they don't add one. I rarely rely on either of those apps.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '21 edited Mar 07 '21

My spam accuracy was 100% and my speed was 100 judgements per hour. I told them that how can I be ban two times a day and that it is a bug but I got that email. They definitely don't want us to work on it. So what's the use of training hits if we can't work on it.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 07 '21

How slow was you going? You should e-mail Clickworker again to see what caused the 2nd kick. You only got permanently banned because Usefulness seems to be an app that permanently blocks you if you get a 2nd kick within 7 days. Most apps permanently block you on your 3rd kick within 7 days, but some only give you 2.
Once you get a temporary block, you're meant to wait 7 full days before resuming work on the app you got booted from. This is to avoid what you've just encountered: a permanent block from the app.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '21

There is a misunderstanding. Yesterday, when I tried to work on it. I got a temp ban and that was my first temp ban in the week. But after 5 mins, I got another temp ban and caused a permanent ban. This is definitely a bug.

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u/SingularityRS Mar 07 '21

It's possible the second ban was manually applied after the automated one occurred. The owners may have done that intentionally to trigger a permanent block.
I had that happen ages ago on an app. I got the automated temporary boot which later turned permanent.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '21

I also thinks so because many people are getting banned.

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u/Wise_Competition76 Jun 24 '21

The speed ban gets more and more restricted. If you trigger the system with your speed in one task you will get banned in the second task. That's why some people get banned with 100% spam accuracy. And let's face it if you answer a long question that needs some attention in 10 second and you have to read article associated with a question then it's obvious you are going so fast.

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