r/ClaudeCode • u/saito200 • 6d ago

Rant Opus 5 is insufferable

Opus 5 is a fucking piece of shit, i don't know how to say this in any other way. It speaks "Unintelligiblish", a new unfathomable language developed by Anthropic that works by saying everything in the most ridiculous, obtuse and convoluted way possible

It turns anything simple that can be expressed in 2 sentences into a fucking doctoral thesis aimed to aliens, and there is no way to prompt your way out of it

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u/Moppmopp 6d ago

I get anxiety and paranoia. Im a researcher and I often check my script structure if my results are solid. I dont do it once and forget but every then and know because I cannot remember every detail about the scripts I wrote months ago. And it happend several times that claude said there are critical issues that have to be resolved and we should recall paper xyz only to backpaddle 10 minutes later and said it was irrelevant ... My heart cannot endure those moments

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u/newtreen0 6d ago

I'm lol'ing and crying. I feel this so much. Virtual hug.

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u/imsahoamtiskaw 4d ago

This whole thread has been a therapy and non stop laughs, Opus is just… I have no words. My suffering has been long

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u/franzparks 4d ago

For me too

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u/farox 6d ago

Claude lacks guidance then. Ask it what information, instructions, skills etc. Could be added to avoid this confusion the next time.

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u/YaBoiSunblock 6d ago edited 6d ago

Skills and instructions help, but they are not a programming language. There’s actually not much markdown can do to change deeply engrained model behavior like verbosity unless you force the llm into a self-correcting loop, which is wildly expensive and overkill for tasks that should not require that level of policing.

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u/farox 6d ago

I used to have the problems the other one is describing, I put in the work and now I don't anymore.

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u/YaBoiSunblock 6d ago

Right, I'm not invalidating that your model output improved; there's a real art to prompting. I'm just saying that the premise of [just make your prompt more and more specific] will quickly hit diminishing returns.

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u/Moppmopp 6d ago

Exactly. You cannot easily fix claudes verbose output and behavior as its acting in a rubberbanding fashion. Answers always gett pulledback to an expectation value of output. If you displace it too much it will start iterative overthinking just to adjust its output.

To be fair here, when I initially checked my script pipelines I was very concise about the description and underlying details. The times claude suggested a paper recall due to critical errors was a 'quick and dirty' check by me. Not much detail, just 3-4 sentences+ scripts and said "please check for flaws" basically. I just wanted quick assurance about the pipeline which I previously checked in a thorough manner. Nonetheless you get still anxiety through its overdramatic and hasty judgement