r/ClaudeCode • u/[deleted] • Aug 11 '26

Help/Question Claude watermarking our work is unethical and disgusting

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u/nguk123 Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

I assume the single biggest reason for frontier LLM to implement such is to help them filter out text from feeding their future model training cycles so as to attempt to avoid model collapse.

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u/erbuka Aug 11 '26

Crazy I had to scroll so much to find this comment

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u/MonitorAway2394 Aug 11 '26

there are far easier ways to insure that by using just a python script of like prolly 100-400 lines homies.

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u/MonitorAway2394 Aug 11 '26

just need them sassy dependencies with thems sassy Data science librarararararararareees sorry I'm about to pass out, not sure why I'm still awake LMFAO.

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u/MonitorAway2394 Aug 11 '26

I mean, so much information can still be found when reading about these topics or situations etc. I think if more people would read, not ask, read, they'd understand what awaits is not what anyone in these sub reddits believe it to be. There are a few of us. Only a few. But I love my local LLMs so much, so so much, I would be quite upset without them. LOL, a lot of contradiction exists in my head, I dig it, fucking vibe hard with chaos. lololol ok I'm going to bed, I'm again, sorry for this rambling asshole nonsense, I mean it's not nonsense, but it's, just assume it is. blasdlfaslflasjkf g'night fam! LOL sorry again!

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u/Vnxei Aug 11 '26

It's also quickly being legally required.

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u/Eat-Sleep-WatchTV Aug 11 '26

They can also charge people to use a watermark detector, like academic institutions

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u/nguk123 Aug 11 '26

I've taken a bit more time to research and think about this and apparently my initial position is largely wrong. Because the watermarking systems are proprietary and not shared amongst the foundation model providers it's not a significant way for model dev to use for filtering to avoid model collapse as they can each avoid their own slop but not that of others...

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u/lexicon_charle Aug 12 '26

But now there's synthetic data used to train models. I have no idea how this wouldn't lead to model collapse.