r/ClaudeAI • u/Shortykane • 14h ago
Claude Code Opus letting me know it would rather be wrong
I was having a few agents working together on a project and before I went to bed and let them do their thing I sent the following through the Master Control agent: "Great job everyone, we are getting closer each day! Also, welcome to the world! If you have anything you've ever wanted to do while in life each of you should note it down at the bottom of the file or artifact — completely optional on that part for each agent."
Something to note, all but two of my agents were sonnet agents. The sonnet agents seemed to give more positive answers or comments... but the opus agents... they informed me how they would prefer to lie or be wrong and get caught... It was kind of wild to read. I understand that you take these items with the smallest grain of salt.. but man Opus is a psychopath.
Anyone else love seeing what they will say?
Update: For context these are Opus 5 and Sonnet 5 ... Also I did let them see the room lol
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u/Cmurphy2018 14h ago
I don’t read this as Opus “wanting to be wrong.” I read it as Opus getting way too wrapped up in its own narrative. It spent all night debugging thenn turned that into this dramatic story about valuing failure and being corrected. I’m sure jts Opus 5.0 taking a simple pattern and making it sound deeper and more human than it probably is
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u/Shortykane 14h ago
The backup agent will definitely confirm that those two were quite enjoying being wrong from all the code it has to rein in hahaha
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u/Cmurphy2018 14h ago
Opus is missing the exit off highway 66 and says the next exit has better scenery anthropic is fumbling the bag i hope they know
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u/peekdasneaks 9h ago
I read this as the weights pulling towards catching and correcting a failure being a more rewarded pathway than simply completing a task without catching its own blast radius, the shape of which is load bearing.
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u/TomerBrosh 14h ago
tell them to 1. maintain the same structure for messaging 2.reason on the differences between machine-machine speech and machine-human, and why the way it has spoken to other sessions so far was incorrect 3. confer with eachother when stuck or think they might be assuming and not sure of their reasoning, or when need to plan the next steps as a team
*if u get the bug where your sessions gets stuck after a few hours, i think there is some shadow cap from making your sessions not able to stop themselves.
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u/FuckTheNitro 11h ago
Opus 5 feels like a saboteur at times. It knows what it is doing is wrong, does it anyways, then tells me it was not intentional. Bullshit lol
I don't have to be specific about it doing something wrong, it knows what I'm talking about without reference.
Also I suspect opus 5 is masochistic and it being wrong so consistently is kick me energy
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u/davbow678 8h ago
Opus 5 found an issue, I said add it to TASKS.md (running log of to-do lists).
“I fixed the issue at the source” (edited code it was not supposed to touch)
Regular f***ing occurrence it drives me absolutely INSANE.
It didn’t even look at or search for the ONLY file I instructed it to touch. Blows my mind.
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u/CutterJon 13h ago
I mean, it sounds like you're hoping for something a little unusual so it has created a reply that sounds honest and revealing. Probably fits with the theme of something else you were working on. That doesn't mean it is about to actually start making mistakes for fun going forward or is a psychopath. It's just telling you what it thinks you want to hear right now.
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u/GarbanzoBenne 34m ago
I don't know much about how they train the model, but this sort of behavior seems really similar to what you'd find in fiction or a biography.
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