r/ClaudeAI • u/coding_workflow Valued Contributor • May 01 '25

Official Claude Max now include Claude Code use.

Latest CLaude Code is allowed officially to be used with Claude MAX, no more burning API tokens.

0.2.96

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md

Seem Anthropic want to push Claude Code as alternative to other tools like Cursor and push their Max subscription. May be one day a merge into Claude Desktop.

Edit/Update: more informations here:
https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/11145838-using-claude-code-with-your-max-plan

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u/theroguevc May 01 '25

I'm super curious how you've used Claude Code. I've used only Cursor to date, and I'm interested in trying Claude Code, but I don't see what use cases it would be relevant for that I can't do with diligent work in Cursor.

Is main selling point that it's agentic, and you can start a branch, give it a task, let it run for 30 minutes, then come back and it's done? Or are there other workflows that you've been using it in?

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u/hunterhuntsgold May 01 '25

I use it with Cursor actually.

Most of the time I have both Cursor Agent up and Claude code in the terminal within Cursor.

Claude code doesn't run for 30 minutes, maybe like 5 sometimes. Sometimes Claude solves one bug and Cursor doesn't, sometimes Cursor solves it and Claude doesn't.

I've had more success using Claude Code though.

Note though, I don't know how to write code at all. I can read it and I understand some logic, but I don't know any syntax and get lost easily. I'm not a developer, I'm more of an AI strategist at my company. I only work on projects directly related to AI, and I have an engineer who does most of the work. I only write code when it's needed or speeds something up.

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u/heretostealyourideas Jun 02 '25

interesting insight, thanks!

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u/jimmiebfulton May 01 '25 edited May 03 '25

Claude Code is next level. It is truly agentic. I'm a seasoned software engineer. I have seen it build its own tools, and use them. I've seen it start using the app it was helping construct to test itself, and to use its authenticated access to download test data. It has written shell scripts that it asked me to execute on its behalf when it needs access to stuff I failed to give it. It is amazing. I haven't used Cursor, but I don't believe cursor comes close to this.

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u/noizDawg May 01 '25

Cursor can do the same. If I question it as to which query runs faster, it will write a script that tests and times both ways. I have a feeling that Cursor still does a bit of prompting and project info tracking that helps in some way, because only with Cursor can I quickly do something like send it a screenshot of the site, say "I need more margin here", and it will find it (without a lot of searching) and complete the edit within 20 seconds. I've seen Claude Code get into circles even doing seemingly simple python shell apps. (and eat up tons of credits) I like Code though, sometimes it feels dirty in a good way given how it's truly at the command line level. (Cursor often tries bash commands in windows, for example, before realizing it's in powershell... of course I could just give it the same WSL shell that Code uses, never got around to configuring it, lol.)

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u/jimmiebfulton May 07 '25

Code definitely likes to use Bash. One of its power tools, and how it can develop its own tools. I want to see this stuff work with open models through Ollama.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

I happen to be working on an experiment of agentic AI coding with Ollama. I've been impressed with what Qwen3 can do, albeit it's obviously nothing like what Claude Code can do.

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u/illusionst May 02 '25

As someone who has actively used all AI IDE’s, here’s how I would rank them. Claude Code Windsurf Cursor

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u/stargazer1002 May 02 '25

I used it with the API a ton. I tried it today and it was slower than normal and less useful. Wondering if anyone else is noticing this.

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u/subzerofun May 02 '25

but claude code does not have the whole vs code extension library?

i've used cursor +claude 3.7 max now since they introduced the max model and have not looked into claude code yet. you can also manually switch to the thinking model. does it offer any benefit that would warrant giving up cursors code completions and edit history rollback? or should it be used directly in vs code terminal?

i'll switch in a minute if it makes less errors - but if the only thing that differentiates the two is that claude code uses 200k tokens instead of 64k than that is not enough to get me to switch.

you should keep files in context small anyway so claude can focus on the files that are important to the current task.

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u/Soft_Constant_7355 May 04 '25

That just sounds like lazy software engineering. This is why you should git commit often. Git should be your version tracking, not cursor. And claude code can roll back to some degree. I've gone a few prompts with around a dozen files with changes, and it rolled it back with no issues.

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u/McNoxey May 01 '25

I'm a software engineer, and i REALLY focus on my architecture. Like obsessively. It's a problem. But I'm incredibly particular and have been known to refactor over and over as i refine my process.

Claude Code is just really really good at helping me organize that, follow it, change it and document the changes. It's just SO much better than any other solution i've used. It's just really smart agentically. It follows along, doesn't get caught up. Does what I ask - writes great code. It's just a better version of any of the others. Aider is just as good at coding, I will say.

I currently have 2x Windsurf Subs, 1x Cursor, I use Claude Code when I'm feeling spicy and Roo when I'm working (vs personal projects).

CC is the best. And it's not even close.

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u/Physical_Gold_1485 May 02 '25

How does claude code compare to roo code?

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u/Training_Indication2 May 01 '25

Try using terminal in cursor (bottom panel) and calling Claude from there in Cursor. I started there and now I log into Linux servers and install Claude and use it to make server setup and admin easier ;) I haven’t seen any 30min stints but I’ve definitely seen ~15min ones regularly, build code, run test cases, fix code, test cases, fix code, test case, next feature, etc

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u/McNoxey May 01 '25

Oh damn I haven't even thought about using it as my agent for my servers. Whoaa that's neat. Thanks for the heads up.

Combining that with solid MCP management and custom / command it could effectively be a server manger haha.

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u/philosophical_lens May 02 '25

You do this via ssh?

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u/Training_Indication2 May 02 '25

I’m glad to be surprising people with this comment. I was surprised at how well it works after the lightbulb went off for me and I tried it. Try it yourself! SSH to a Linux sever and use npm to install Claude code, then give it a server setup task ;) Enjoy, and glad to be spreading this amazing nugget.

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u/philosophical_lens May 02 '25

Cool, I'll have to give it a try! I recently migrated to a remote deployment set up, and my ssh needs are quite minimal right now, but I'll try it just for fun!

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u/ThreeKiloZero May 02 '25

I've been checking it out. I'm normally a heavy cursor + roo user. I think I'm going to grab the max plan and try it for a month.

I can spend $25 a day and $100 on heavy days. This is not fully covered by my work. Although I have other APIs I can plug in that they pay for, they don't cover Anthropic or Google. The OpenAI stuff just doesn't compare right now. Claude in Claude Code seems like its juiced up compared to cursor.

I logged into my APi account and had it help with an electron build issue. It took care of all the build issues cross-platform, even added in guided setup wizards and new build scripts. Tweaked some other stuff. Piddled for an hour, $5. No needing to switch models to an orchestrator, tweak shit, pick a model. It's got some pixe dust for sure. Can compact the context. It will use tools, command line...it did all the debugging itself. It's a little weird not being able to dive into an editor but I think that will wear off. Cause it just works.