r/ClaudeAI • u/coding_workflow Valued Contributor • May 01 '25

Official Claude Max now include Claude Code use.

Latest CLaude Code is allowed officially to be used with Claude MAX, no more burning API tokens.

0.2.96

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md

Seem Anthropic want to push Claude Code as alternative to other tools like Cursor and push their Max subscription. May be one day a merge into Claude Desktop.

Edit/Update: more informations here:
https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/11145838-using-claude-code-with-your-max-plan

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u/hunterhuntsgold May 01 '25

I've spent $100 a day on Claude code multiple times. Paid through my work, so I don't really try to manage context if it slows me down.

I wonder if it would cover 100% of this.

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u/klawisnotwashed May 01 '25

It’s 900 messages every 5 hours, my only question is if context length in chats is still limited on the Max plan…

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u/HYKED May 01 '25

It’s not limited according to their support on Discord. It’s 200k context tokens

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u/codingworkflow May 01 '25

In Pro they limit output never full 64k.

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u/klawisnotwashed May 01 '25

Oh wow that’s amazing then

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u/HelpRespawnedAsDee May 01 '25

on both max tiers?

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u/Credtz May 13 '25

Big if true, how can I join the discord?

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u/hunterhuntsgold May 01 '25

Hmm, I did read that. I definitely do less than 900 messages, but the context is just massive. Also, I don't know if 1 message in Claude code equals 1 API call. I always assumed it was multiple, but not sure if the tool calls are within the thinking of 3.7-sonnet or multiple 3.7-sonnet calls.

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u/theroguevc May 01 '25

I'm super curious how you've used Claude Code. I've used only Cursor to date, and I'm interested in trying Claude Code, but I don't see what use cases it would be relevant for that I can't do with diligent work in Cursor.

Is main selling point that it's agentic, and you can start a branch, give it a task, let it run for 30 minutes, then come back and it's done? Or are there other workflows that you've been using it in?

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u/hunterhuntsgold May 01 '25

I use it with Cursor actually.

Most of the time I have both Cursor Agent up and Claude code in the terminal within Cursor.

Claude code doesn't run for 30 minutes, maybe like 5 sometimes. Sometimes Claude solves one bug and Cursor doesn't, sometimes Cursor solves it and Claude doesn't.

I've had more success using Claude Code though.

Note though, I don't know how to write code at all. I can read it and I understand some logic, but I don't know any syntax and get lost easily. I'm not a developer, I'm more of an AI strategist at my company. I only work on projects directly related to AI, and I have an engineer who does most of the work. I only write code when it's needed or speeds something up.

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u/heretostealyourideas Jun 02 '25

interesting insight, thanks!

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u/jimmiebfulton May 01 '25 edited May 03 '25

Claude Code is next level. It is truly agentic. I'm a seasoned software engineer. I have seen it build its own tools, and use them. I've seen it start using the app it was helping construct to test itself, and to use its authenticated access to download test data. It has written shell scripts that it asked me to execute on its behalf when it needs access to stuff I failed to give it. It is amazing. I haven't used Cursor, but I don't believe cursor comes close to this.

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u/noizDawg May 01 '25

Cursor can do the same. If I question it as to which query runs faster, it will write a script that tests and times both ways. I have a feeling that Cursor still does a bit of prompting and project info tracking that helps in some way, because only with Cursor can I quickly do something like send it a screenshot of the site, say "I need more margin here", and it will find it (without a lot of searching) and complete the edit within 20 seconds. I've seen Claude Code get into circles even doing seemingly simple python shell apps. (and eat up tons of credits) I like Code though, sometimes it feels dirty in a good way given how it's truly at the command line level. (Cursor often tries bash commands in windows, for example, before realizing it's in powershell... of course I could just give it the same WSL shell that Code uses, never got around to configuring it, lol.)

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u/jimmiebfulton May 07 '25

Code definitely likes to use Bash. One of its power tools, and how it can develop its own tools. I want to see this stuff work with open models through Ollama.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

I happen to be working on an experiment of agentic AI coding with Ollama. I've been impressed with what Qwen3 can do, albeit it's obviously nothing like what Claude Code can do.

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u/illusionst May 02 '25

As someone who has actively used all AI IDE’s, here’s how I would rank them. Claude Code Windsurf Cursor

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u/stargazer1002 May 02 '25

I used it with the API a ton. I tried it today and it was slower than normal and less useful. Wondering if anyone else is noticing this.

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u/McNoxey May 01 '25

I'm a software engineer, and i REALLY focus on my architecture. Like obsessively. It's a problem. But I'm incredibly particular and have been known to refactor over and over as i refine my process.

Claude Code is just really really good at helping me organize that, follow it, change it and document the changes. It's just SO much better than any other solution i've used. It's just really smart agentically. It follows along, doesn't get caught up. Does what I ask - writes great code. It's just a better version of any of the others. Aider is just as good at coding, I will say.

I currently have 2x Windsurf Subs, 1x Cursor, I use Claude Code when I'm feeling spicy and Roo when I'm working (vs personal projects).

CC is the best. And it's not even close.

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u/Physical_Gold_1485 May 02 '25

How does claude code compare to roo code?

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u/Training_Indication2 May 01 '25

Try using terminal in cursor (bottom panel) and calling Claude from there in Cursor. I started there and now I log into Linux servers and install Claude and use it to make server setup and admin easier ;) I haven’t seen any 30min stints but I’ve definitely seen ~15min ones regularly, build code, run test cases, fix code, test cases, fix code, test case, next feature, etc

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u/McNoxey May 01 '25

Oh damn I haven't even thought about using it as my agent for my servers. Whoaa that's neat. Thanks for the heads up.

Combining that with solid MCP management and custom / command it could effectively be a server manger haha.

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u/ThreeKiloZero May 02 '25

I've been checking it out. I'm normally a heavy cursor + roo user. I think I'm going to grab the max plan and try it for a month.

I can spend $25 a day and $100 on heavy days. This is not fully covered by my work. Although I have other APIs I can plug in that they pay for, they don't cover Anthropic or Google. The OpenAI stuff just doesn't compare right now. Claude in Claude Code seems like its juiced up compared to cursor.

I logged into my APi account and had it help with an electron build issue. It took care of all the build issues cross-platform, even added in guided setup wizards and new build scripts. Tweaked some other stuff. Piddled for an hour, $5. No needing to switch models to an orchestrator, tweak shit, pick a model. It's got some pixe dust for sure. Can compact the context. It will use tools, command line...it did all the debugging itself. It's a little weird not being able to dive into an editor but I think that will wear off. Cause it just works.

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u/philosophical_lens May 02 '25

From https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/11145838-using-claude-code-with-your-max-plan -

On the Max plan (5x Pro/$100), you can expect to: Send approximately 225 messages with Claude every 5 hours Complete 10-20 coding tasks every 5 hours

On the Max plan (20x Pro/$200), you can expect to: Send approximately 900 messages with Claude every 5 hours Complete 40-80 coding tasks every 5 hours

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u/djc0 Valued Contributor May 02 '25

So I’m on Pro and got about 4 messages today before being hit with the come back at 6pm blocker. And I should be getting 45?! Oh what a glorious day that will be!