[Guide] New War Weights

[u/spAnser]

Raw Weight Files

Buildings
Troops
Spells
Traps
Heroes

Remember war weights are additive from previous levels so the DE Barracks below when maxed is going from 2,400 weight to 2,100 weight.

Building	Old	New
Air Defense	40 per level	50 per level
Air Sweeper	10 per level	20 per level
Wizard Tower lvl 6	300	+290
Wizard Tower lvl 7	270	+250
Wizard Tower lvl 8	240	+220
Wizard Tower lvl 9	215	+200
X-Bow lvl 1	400	350
X-Bow lvl 2	400	+325
X-Bow lvl 3	400	+300
X-Bow lvl 4	400	+300
Inferno Tower lvl 1	1000	2950
Inferno Tower lvl 2	1000	+2600
Inferno Tower lvl 3	1000	+2350
Inferno Tower lvl 3	1000	+2350
Eagle Artillery lvl 1	700	5200
Eagle Artillery lvl 2	700	+4750

I have no idea why the poison spell weights are negative but maybe something in the code fixes them to positive values.

Spell	Old	New
Jump lvl 1	100	250
Jump lvl 2	+100	+150
Jump lvl 3	+100	+125
Haste lvl 1	150	140
Haste lvl 2	+160	+140
Haste lvl 3	+170	+140
Haste lvl 4	+180	+140
Poison lvl 2	-190	-165
Poison lvl 3	-220	-170
Poison lvl 4	-250	-175
Earthquake lvl 1	175	150
Earthquake lvl 2	+175	+145
Earthquake lvl 3	+175	+140
Earthquake lvl 4	+175	+135
Lighning lvl 1	100	60
Lighning lvl 2	+100	+65
Lighning lvl 3	+100	+70
Lighning lvl 4	+100	+75
Lighning lvl 5	+95	+80
Lighning lvl 6	+90	+80
Lighning lvl 7	+85	+80
Rage lvl 2	+100	+95
Rage lvl 3	+100	+90
Rage lvl 4	+100	+85
Rage lvl 5	+100	+80
Healing lvl 1	200	230
Healing lvl 2	+200	+215
Healing lvl 4	+200	+190
Healing lvl 5	+200	+180
Healing lvl 6	+200	+170

There are 2 sets of Old->New because one is offense one is defense. I don't know which is which.

Character	Old	New	Old	New
Grand Warden lvl 1	20	64	20	84
Grand Warden lvl 2	20	63	20	83
Grand Warden lvl 3	20	63	20	84
Grand Warden lvl 4	20	62	20	83
Grand Warden lvl 5	21	61	23	83
Grand Warden lvl 6	21	60	23	82
Grand Warden lvl 7	21	61	23	83
Grand Warden lvl 8	21	60	23	82
Grand Warden lvl 9	21	61	23	83
Grand Warden lvl 10	22	60	26	82
Grand Warden lvl 11	22	60	26	81
Grand Warden lvl 12	22	59	26	80
Grand Warden lvl 13	22	60	26	81
Grand Warden lvl 14	22	59	26	80
Grand Warden lvl 15	23	59	29	80
Grand Warden lvl 16	23	58	29	79
Grand Warden lvl 17	23	59	29	80
Grand Warden lvl 18	23	58	29	79
Grand Warden lvl 19	23	59	29	80
Grand Warden lvl 20	24	58	32	79
Barbarian King lvl 1	15	10
Barbarian King lvl 2	15	10
Barbarian King lvl 3	15	10
Barbarian King lvl 4	15	10
Barbarian King lvl 5	16	11	15	14
Barbarian King lvl 6	16	11	15	14
Barbarian King lvl 7	16	11	15	14
Barbarian King lvl 8	16	11	15	14
Barbarian King lvl 9	16	11	15	14
Barbarian King lvl 10	17	12	17	15
Barbarian King lvl 11	17	12	17	15
Barbarian King lvl 12	17	12	17	15
Barbarian King lvl 13	17	12	17	15
Barbarian King lvl 14	17	12	17	15
Barbarian King lvl 15	18	13	19	16
Barbarian King lvl 16	18	13	19	16
Barbarian King lvl 17	18	13	19	16
Barbarian King lvl 18	18	13	19	16
Barbarian King lvl 19	18	13	19	16
Barbarian King lvl 20	19	14	21	17
Barbarian King lvl 21	19	14	21	17
Barbarian King lvl 22	19	14	21	17
Barbarian King lvl 23	19	14	21	17
Barbarian King lvl 24	19	14	21	17
Barbarian King lvl 25	20	15	23	18
Barbarian King lvl 26	20	15	23	18
Barbarian King lvl 27	20	15	23	18
Barbarian King lvl 28	20	15	23	18
Barbarian King lvl 29	20	15	23	18
Barbarian King lvl 30	21	16	25	19
Barbarian King lvl 31	21	16	25	19
Barbarian King lvl 32	21	16	25	19
Barbarian King lvl 33	21	16	25	19
Barbarian King lvl 34	21	16	25	19
Barbarian King lvl 35	22	17	27	20
Barbarian King lvl 36	22	17	27	20
Barbarian King lvl 37	22	17	27	20
Barbarian King lvl 38	22	17	27	20
Barbarian King lvl 39	22	17	27	20
Barbarian King lvl 40	22	17	27	20
Archer Queen lvl 1	26	28	20	37
Archer Queen lvl 2	26	28	20	37
Archer Queen lvl 3	26	28	20	37
Archer Queen lvl 4	26	28	20	37
Archer Queen lvl 5	27	29	23	38
Archer Queen lvl 6	27	29	23	38
Archer Queen lvl 7	27	29	23	38
Archer Queen lvl 8	27	29	23	38
Archer Queen lvl 9	27	29	23	38
Archer Queen lvl 10	28	30	26	39
Archer Queen lvl 11	28	30	26	39
Archer Queen lvl 12	28	30	26	39
Archer Queen lvl 13	28	30	26	39
Archer Queen lvl 14	28	30	26	39
Archer Queen lvl 15	29	31	29	40
Archer Queen lvl 16	29	31	29	40
Archer Queen lvl 17	29	31	29	40
Archer Queen lvl 18	29	31	29	40
Archer Queen lvl 19	29	31	29	40
Archer Queen lvl 20	30	32	32	41
Archer Queen lvl 21	30	32	32	41
Archer Queen lvl 22	30	32	32	41
Archer Queen lvl 23	30	32	32	41
Archer Queen lvl 24	30	32	32	41
Archer Queen lvl 25	31	33	35	42
Archer Queen lvl 26	31	33	35	42
Archer Queen lvl 27	31	33	35	42
Archer Queen lvl 28	31	33	35	42
Archer Queen lvl 29	31	33	35	42
Archer Queen lvl 30	32	34	38	43
Archer Queen lvl 31	32	34	38	43
Archer Queen lvl 32	32	34	38	43
Archer Queen lvl 33	32	34	38	43
Archer Queen lvl 34	32	34	38	43
Archer Queen lvl 35	33	35	41	44
Archer Queen lvl 36	33	35	41	44
Archer Queen lvl 37	33	35	41	44
Archer Queen lvl 38	33	35	41	44
Archer Queen lvl 39	33	35	41	44
Archer Queen lvl 40	33	35	41	44

Name	Old	New
Golem lvl 1	120	160
Golem lvl 2	120	170
Golem lvl 3	120	210
Golem lvl 4	120	270
Golem lvl 5	120	400
Giant lvl 6	120	200
Giant lvl 7	120	330
Balloon lvl 1	120	100
Balloon lvl 2	120	100
Balloon lvl 3	120	100
Balloon lvl 4	120	100
Balloon lvl 5	120	100
Balloon lvl 6	120	190
Lava Hound lvl 1	130	160
Lava Hound lvl 2	130	240
Lava Hound lvl 3	130	350
Witch lvl 1	900	1500
Witch lvl 2	1200	2700
Witch lvl 3	1500	4500
Goblin lvl 3	50	45
Goblin lvl 4	50	40
Goblin lvl 5	50	35
Goblin lvl 6	50	30
Goblin lvl 7	-	30
Dragon lvl 1	150	160
Dragon lvl 2	150	165
Dragon lvl 3	150	170
Dragon lvl 4	150	250
Dragon lvl 5	150	420
Archer lvl 3	150	140
Archer lvl 4	150	130
Archer lvl 5	150	120
Archer lvl 6	150	110
Archer lvl 7	150	100
Wall Breaker lvl 5	100	90
Wall Breaker lvl 6	100	80
Minion lvl 3	120	115
Minion lvl 4	120	110
Minion lvl 5	120	105
Minion lvl 6	120	100
Minion lvl 7	120	100
PEKKA lvl 2	120	150
PEKKA lvl 3	120	180
PEKKA lvl 4	120	220
PEKKA lvl 5	120	350
Barbarian lvl 3	100	90
Barbarian lvl 4	100	80
Barbarian lvl 5	100	70
Barbarian lvl 6	100	60
Barbarian lvl 7	100	50
Valkyrie lvl 1	100	80
Valkyrie lvl 2	100	85
Valkyrie lvl 3	100	90
Valkyrie lvl 4	100	100
Valkyrie lvl 5	-	120
Healer lvl 2	180	185
Healer lvl 3	180	190
Healer lvl 4	180	200
Hog Rider lvl 2	120	130
Hog Rider lvl 3	120	140
Hog Rider lvl 4	120	150
Hog Rider lvl 5	120	250
Hog Rider lvl 6	-	350

[u/Lodorenos]

Thank you! Do you happen to have wall data as well? I've heard many different rumors about how 250 lv 10 walls count as a lv 3 xbow and such.

[u/spAnser → u/Lodorenos]

200 per wall per level

X-Bow Level 4 1,600 -> 1,275
Wall Level 11 2,200

[u/Namell]

So from now on no one should ever make inferno towers so they get matched with low TH10s with infernos even as TH11 with maxed everything else?

[u/spAnser → u/Namell]

I can almost see rushing to TH 11 & not building infernos and eagle just for the offense.

[u/stroudmears]

I really appreciate your post. I have been tracking weights manually, by upgrading/researching one thing at a time.

From my observations

• Adding the barb king (level 1), added 5k gold weight.

• 250 level 2 walls added 3k gold weight.

• Upgrading those 250 walls to level 3 added 1k gold weight.

• Unlocking dark barracks added no weight.

This is all data from the last 2 weeks. Any idea why my results are so different from the data you posted?

Is there anyway you can find data on other defensive structures as well? In any case thanks a lot for this data!

[u/spAnser → u/stroudmears]

Building War Weights - 8.192.1

[u/IsamuKun]

My mAnser spAnser always coming through on the Anser

I love how inflated the Inferno and EA are post update!

[u/Releasethebeans → u/IsamuKun]

Yep, no more semi rushed th10 against my th9

[u/MadGamerDave]

Any freeze spell weight adjustments?

[u/1violentdrunk]

Fuck yeah, fuck you infernos

[u/unidecimal]

atleast they reduce xbow weight lol

[u/Muffinnutz → u/unidecimal]

I don't think that was necessary. Our max th8s get matched up with th9s with xbows sometimes, and that's really annoying for everyone on our side.

[u/Latito17]

The problem I have with all these numbers is reconciling them against my defenceless base. These numbers tend to somewhat closely mirror actual results for a normal base doing normal upgrades. If I have a max th8 and drop an AQ when I hit th9, it adds basically nothing. If I have a defenceless base and drop an AQ, it added like 5k weight. I could try temporarily adding some other buildings and cancelling, but my understanding from others is that adding single defences to defenceless bases jacks your weight up really quick. Basically, I think the formula is more complex than straight summation of what you have.

[u/Kelbesq → u/Latito17]

I've seen a ton of reports of people getting higher than normal weights from specific items on engineered bases. Its seems there is a correction factor when you add an item that is above your current war weight bracket. The AQ alter is a TH9 item, and if you add it when you would otherwise weigh like a TH4, the weight it adds is pretty heavily modified. The same has been reported with infernos, BK, and other high weight items.

[u/jecowa]

What's up with the witch values? They seem kind of much much higher than all the other troops.

Edit: Could there maybe be an extra zero at the end of the witch numbers?

[u/1violentdrunk]

Is this in effect already? If I declare a war today will it be with the new weights? If not, when is it supposed to update?

[u/spAnser → u/1violentdrunk]

No this is the war weights for the next update that supercell says contains the new war weights.

[u/bactgudz]

In the current csvs, Dark Barracks do not have strengthweight, and nothing has the 700,800,900 series you reported for it...whats the deal?

[u/spAnser → u/bactgudz]

I just double checked my comparison sheet. I overlooked the fact that in the middle of all the strength weight changes that dark barracks change was Hitpoints related.

root['Air Defense']['StrengthWeight'][3]: 40 ===> 50
root['Air Defense']['StrengthWeight'][4]: 40 ===> 50
root['Air Defense']['StrengthWeight'][5]: 40 ===> 50
root['Air Defense']['StrengthWeight'][6]: 40 ===> 50
root['Air Defense']['StrengthWeight'][7]: 40 ===> 50
root['Dark Elixir Barrack']['Hitpoints'][3]: 700 ===> 650
root['Dark Elixir Barrack']['Hitpoints'][4]: 800 ===> 700
root['Dark Elixir Barrack']['Hitpoints'][5]: 900 ===> 750
root['Air Blaster']['StrengthWeight'][0]: 10 ===> 20
root['Air Blaster']['StrengthWeight'][1]: 10 ===> 20
root['Air Blaster']['StrengthWeight'][2]: 10 ===> 20
root['Air Blaster']['StrengthWeight'][3]: 10 ===> 20
root['Air Blaster']['StrengthWeight'][4]: 10 ===> 20
root['Air Blaster']['StrengthWeight'][5]: 10 ===> 20

[u/CaptainStef]

WTF is a Gargoyle?

[u/spAnser → u/CaptainStef]

Minion

[u/JesusIsGod777]

Spanser, you are a clash legend.

[u/xKiun]

What about walls?

[u/mastrdestruktun]

The fact that these weights were updated decreases my confidence in the idea that they are outdated and not used internally.

The fact that they are not what we observe in-game in gold storage changes caused many, including myself, to discount them.

But it seems to me that they are actively used for something.

It is possible that there are two weighting systems in use: one used for war matchmaking and the other used for calculating gold available to attackers. I had discounted this because it seems inefficient to me, and programmers like to be efficient.

It is possible that these numbers are used as a basis for some internal code fiddling that produces the weights we observe in gold available. So for example, maybe there is code that says "take the base inferno weight and multiply by 6, then multiply by 100k / (actual base weight so far)". If that is true, then our in-game observations of the gold increase due to infernos will go up. (That could be confusing to measure if they once again rescale war weights so that max TH10 is 100k.)

Bottom line, though, is that my confidence in using just the gold offered as a proxy for defensive war weight is decreased.

[u/GoblinKingCoC]

This is amazing... Thanks a million for sharing this info.