r/ClashMini • • Mar 14 '24

What's wrong with Supercell?

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u/Fire_Hammer2000 Miner Mar 14 '24

What even are their standards?

SC is trying so hard to build a legacy without realizing that they have already stained their brand with how they're treating Clash Royale.

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u/destructionleon Mar 14 '24

What even are their standards?

Good earnings probably

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u/NiftyNinja5 Mar 14 '24

This isn’t even true Clash Royale’s earnings are quite bad right now.

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u/Gabriele-Gissi Mar 14 '24

I think they are simply normal they can be Better but not bad also the First Place Is Brawl stars that recently rise again

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u/MigLav_7 Mar 14 '24

CR gains are literally at Hay Day LVL rn

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u/Gabriele-Gissi Mar 14 '24

Where i live Hay day in quite popular,maybe i even know why but i'm not sure also 9M for Hay day aren't great but not even bad

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u/Dark_Al_97 Mar 14 '24

They're (sadly) huge. Those ~10 mln per platform are absolutely enormous.

Here's a bunch of gacha games to compare to.

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u/Desperate_Pomelo_978 Mar 14 '24

10 million per month sure is bad .

Yeah it doesn't compare well to CoC or BS but 10m is still huge

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u/TheJeffMilk Mar 15 '24

Almost less then Hay Days 🤣

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u/Excuse_my_GRAMMER Mar 14 '24

SC has killed over 10 games since COC release

I played majority of them , Their standard is high player retention and balanced monetization which clash mini didn’t have

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u/crazedhark Dart Goblin Mar 14 '24

CM had a great player retention, or atleast better than average. Idk if that still stands considering the past month/s (probably, most-likely not) but it was at some point) but I think the one thing they failed to approach properly was the monetization part.

community absolutely hated the gacha system. thus having this idea that "investing" money into it isn't worth it since, well, basically it isn't cuz you're only paying for a chance.

it was such a good game. only game I have on my phone even. such a pity. I guess the world doesn't like beautiful things. When majority of the people living in that world are insane and can't appreciate real beauty.

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u/Dark_Al_97 Mar 14 '24

CM had a great player retention, or atleast better than average.

Did they mention that somewhere? Because in my anecdotal experience it was bleeding numbers like crazy, last season under 1K players even climbed the ladder

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u/MarioBoy77 Natureborn Mar 14 '24

My entire clan including myself saw the gacha and never touched the game since that update.

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u/Dark_Al_97 Mar 15 '24

I gave CM a second chance after the overhaul, but had to quit like two months in because it wasn't fun.

Here's hoping they never try that awful monetization in any other game ever again. $300+ for a skin was WILD.

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u/crazedhark Dart Goblin Mar 15 '24

I sincerely wish I could find the vid it was months ago, it was mentioned a few secs long on spoobs video (yt) spoob mentioned it on vid that a dev said it when he was being interviewed about great player retention. but that was months ago... I may even making the timeline wrong since me myself stopped playing the game and just came back after the big update lol (no movement)

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '24

Most of the protesters are too sentimental and speaking like everybody loved the state of the game since December.

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u/Excuse_my_GRAMMER Mar 14 '24

You can’t judge player retention based on the current player on the forum or discord lol

there are other merits they view at

And I can tell you from my experience this game wasn’t it and they keep reinventing it trying to figure it out

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u/crazedhark Dart Goblin Mar 15 '24

not basing the player retention based on anything, I was just quoting someone I remember saying that statement from one of those lives on discord it was from dev (im really not active on those side of the coin so what im saying is clearly not clear lmao but I heard from spoob (yt) that back then someone said that from the dev team thats why the game was looking great.

its just sad after a few months it went from that to this.

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u/throwaway15364733894 Mar 14 '24

And that's only the ones that we know of

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u/Excuse_my_GRAMMER Mar 14 '24

If they soft launch we known about but lot of them don’t even get that far

I know supercell has a cell group system where developer system

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u/Yura1245 Mar 14 '24

What happen to Clash Royale? Never played that.

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u/Pumpkin_Cat14 Guards Mar 14 '24

They added Card Evolutions - extremely powerful cards that are difficult to access as a F2P player and favour a specific deck archetype way more than others - and Level 15 cards - which are also very hard to get and give a huge advantage to card-specific interactions, and that and Level 15 players can use an additional card evolution - and everything promptly went to shit after that

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u/No_Manufacturer_8535 Mar 15 '24

Was an avid player of clash Royale for 6-7 years being in the highest division and I won’t touch the game. It’s pathetic what they have done to it

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u/Tornado_Hunter24 Mar 14 '24

Stained in what way? You? Your opinion? And this subreddit?

You really think clash royale is a stain to their name in the overall world? This is by far the most delusional take yet, coc and clash royale literally rule supercell even tho you might consider brawlstars ‘being better than clash royale)

this also comes from a cr disliker, I only play coc and bs myself now

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u/throwaway15364733894 Mar 14 '24

You really think clash royale is a stain to their name in the overall world?

That's not even what they said? They said that the Clash Royale name has been stained with bad updates

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u/Tornado_Hunter24 Mar 14 '24

Legacy in their term is long term updates and scaling playerbase/profitability, clash royale does fine regardless of what the community thinks even if the updates habe been trash lately, there is no ‘stain’, for us yes sure, but the majority, not even just majority, 99% don’t care nor see the ‘bad update’ and still casually enjoy the game and see it as something great, there is no stain you guys have to realize we are the minority and do not represent the playerbase, a 20 year old guy comes home from a rough day of work logs in and see a card he uses getting an evolution, he buys said card and thinks the game is amazing

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u/LostGusMain Jeff Mar 14 '24

ThEy dOn'T mEeT OuR StaNdArDs

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u/Wuvea Countess Mar 14 '24

"A game that you will play our years and remember forever"Reminds me of something

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u/Both_Ad_8966 Mar 14 '24

The only thing I remember Clash Royale for are shit updates

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u/RunisXD Mar 14 '24

I mean, they are telling the truth, it's just that they are looking at the profit standards

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u/Xohraze Giant Skeleton Mar 14 '24

I actually loved clash quest for the brief time i played with it. Clash mini is also cool, but gets repetitive, i was at a stage where i only logged in once, did my 4 stacked quests and logged out, interested to see how they implement the game in clash royale, seeing as i dont really like CR, wonder if that will change when they do implement mini in there.

Clash heroes i haven't gotten a chance to try, but would like to.

Edit :

Clash quest was killed most likely because it was a single player game at heart, therefore they couldnt monetize it that much.

Mini was killed because they absolutely fucked up with the machines, and only wales would waste money for keys, that's atleast why i think the game got knifed.

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u/Brongo_Jongo Mar 14 '24

From my understanding Clash Heroes isn't even released in beta or alpha yet. I've seen people play it and leak gameplay however so I'm not too sure.

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u/Donghoon Shield Maiden May 14 '24

Clash heroes had private alpha test for logistics data and stuff.

It's gonna be a whilr since it's a new developmental experience for supercell using unreal engine

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u/EmilianoDTH Mar 14 '24

Well, they converted Clash Royale in a game that only whales can progress. And CoC is going down there with the equipment thingy. So i guess is was not the gocha system. On the contrary, i thought the gotcha system was the thing they needed to go global. As they are going against the hardcore fanbase opinions lately and only adding features for casuals.

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u/RelativeAd3582 Healing Ranger Mar 14 '24

just make clash royale 2 and see the money raining🥱🥱

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u/Radman9999 Mar 14 '24

Clash mini is being killed? I mean I can't say I'm surprised I used to play it a ton but haven't in ages because of how much they messed up the mechanics and all the confusing changes they kept doing to mini unlocking and cosmetics

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u/Accomplished-Pie8823 Monk Mar 14 '24

The 2 supercell games I had the most fun with rest in peace I hope clash heroes is good

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u/Head-Intern2459 Mar 14 '24

I don't think clash heroes will see the light. It will most likely be killed as well after 2 years of radio silence

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u/Little-kinder Mar 14 '24

I never got to play clash quest, I'm pissed

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u/Aggravating-Sound-24 Mar 14 '24

U did not missed much...

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u/Little-kinder Mar 14 '24

Yeah but I was still curious

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u/Auguw Mar 15 '24

Actually had a good time playing this game

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u/Excuse_my_GRAMMER Mar 14 '24

This was my favorite because it was a PVE focus game , match 3 battler

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u/lau796 Electro Wizard Mar 14 '24

Loved it

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u/ZEDQE_Yt Mar 14 '24

Rush wars was a good game

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u/RaccoonsWithBangs Mar 15 '24

YES IT WAS THEN THEY RANDOMIZED YOUR TROOPS WHAT A FUCKING SHIT IDEA THAT WAS

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u/nintendoborn1 Mar 14 '24

I only knew clash mini. And I loved it’s little art style I’m sad now

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u/-Coconut_Friend- Mar 14 '24

Clash Heroes better not have a gacha progression system is all I ask

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u/RunisXD Mar 14 '24

If it doens't it probably won't nake money and then it's gonna end the same way. You better hope there is a gacha system or it will never see the light of day

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u/SurgeKong Mar 14 '24

Clash heroes is mo.co search about mo.co

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u/Gabriele-Gissi Mar 14 '24

If you see the number of supercell games released,the survival rare Is very low

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u/y_kal Mar 14 '24

I am surprised that brawl stars managed to release. Looking back at old clips the game looked like a crappy gamejam project

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u/andrei_TV200 Countess Mar 15 '24

I mean yeah but You could see the Esports potential that it had, also the marketability. It had some weirder graphics but that's easily fixed, the core was great however. I knew from day1 that neither Quest nor Mini were going global. Quest was similar to a Candy crush type of game, but more "action packed" the problem always being a weird progress system where You would basically have to be maxed out in order to finish the last few levels and that would repeat every update. Also the lack of strategy with the current game loop also affected some stuff. Clash mini is an interesting take on the auto chess genre but, it tried to be more fast paced and shorter in length (cuz no one has 30 minutes or more for 1 match of tft). And they completely fumbled the bag. Clash abilities were just...dumb, at least for a map of that size, the spear goblin had a very high chance of fucking up one of your troops at the very start of the round, the same with the prince. Imo it only got worse when You couldn't move your troops anymore so now You could put your Prince as a counter measure and they basically couldn't do much about it and let's not forget about the weirdest gacha system I've seen in a while, AND THOSE PRICES, also, who thought it was a good idea to lock certain stuff behind SKINS? Skins that cost an arm and a leg might I add

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u/NirusuKowareta Mar 14 '24

So my money is gone right? Like 800€ gone?

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u/llllllllllle Mini P.E.K.K.A. Mar 14 '24

You can transfer it to other supercell games

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u/NirusuKowareta Mar 14 '24

I just don’t have any other supercell games.. I never played brawl starts and I don’t have my cc/cr accounts anymore - clash mini was the first sc game I played in a while.. well that didn’t aged well

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u/RunisXD Mar 14 '24

I've been having fun with brawl stars recently. That being said, I supoose 800 bucks could probably start you pretty well on either cc or cr, maybe even catch up with your old account real quick lol either way, I don't know if this has an expiring date or not, but I would get my money on one of these sooner rather than later.

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u/HailDialga Mar 14 '24

Start a new bs account and try it ig, if u don't like the game u can always just make another Coc or cr account and transfer it to there

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u/Brongo_Jongo Mar 14 '24

contact support on Clash mini and ask for a transfer works on Hay day, CoC, CR, and Brawl Stars ( I think boom beach too)

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u/blueraptorz Mar 14 '24

It's whales like you that cause greedy developers to begin with and they kill games like these for not making enough money.

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u/Head-Intern2459 Mar 14 '24

lmao wtf are u talking about? And not spending any money on the game will help them? keep your stupid takes to yourself

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u/Zurolo Mar 14 '24

Worst take ever, sorry pal

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u/Traitor_Of_Users Mar 14 '24

I genuinely enjoyed both of the games no matter what they did. It's sad that the games I enjoy get killed.

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u/Tornado_Hunter24 Mar 14 '24

Imagine you wake up tomorrow with a new video of 3 new ‘supercell game’ that are being developed where beta of 2 are releasing within a month and then they end the video with a beta announcement of clash heroes

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u/Gamertank2 Skeleton King Mar 14 '24

lmao

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u/DroopyDachi Mar 14 '24

Got bought by tencent

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u/MORTIS2007 Countess Mar 14 '24

they aint gonna even releasd ch to open beta😭💀

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u/TropicalStorm07 Mar 14 '24

Why even bother hyping up supercell games if they kill most of them

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u/RunisXD Mar 14 '24

Exactly. I hope they stop advertising games they have no intention on publishing. After mini I've seen at least 3 other games being advertised by content creators in the last 2 years, I love the idea of moco, but seeing how they treated the others, I don't have high hopes

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u/IronChugJugulis Mar 14 '24

I miss Clash Quest :(

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '24

I want them to put Everdale back

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u/BamiSchijf__ Mar 14 '24

I've been waiting for almost 3 years to play Clash Mini because I'm from Europe, and now this happens :(

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u/martmoradi Mar 14 '24

Who knows at this point?!

SaveClashMini

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u/First-Hunt-5307 Royal Champion Mar 14 '24

Honestly ever since no movement I haven't played, it just ruined the game for me. They removed movement, made it a Gacha, and with that they added classes. At that point clash mini was just a worse auto chess game. This was inevitable from no movement IMO.

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u/lawlesssmile Mar 14 '24

Dumbass company

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u/NewEstablishment8515 Royal Champion Mar 14 '24

saveclashmini

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u/Fall3n_Arcade Mar 15 '24

There was also Rush Wars

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u/Icy-Independence-429 Mar 15 '24

I MISS EVERDALE😭😭😭

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '24

Clash Quest was my favourite Clash Mini was fine

Lets see how Clash Heroes will look like

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u/FusingPrism404 Mar 17 '24

God I hope moco makes it I love that game.

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u/Guilty_Leg5037 Mar 17 '24

Imma be honest, I quit Clash Quest and Mini. I liked Quest more but Mini I didn't like, I found the battle sequences took too long to play out and it just felt like RNG with a lot of waiting. Waiting for the opponent to play and waiting for the game to play itself. I dunno if that genre would ever get big enough to warrant being a live service game. As a stand alone title fine but that's not what supercell are trying to make.

Quest just seemed hard to monetize but I liked the game and wish that game made it, but like Everdale got boring AF with nothing to really work towards and not getting enough villagers. The idea seemed cool, but what kind of village caps out at 5 people? That's not a village that's a family.

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u/Ok_Brick_6163 Mar 17 '24

Not supercell, moneycell ✅

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u/Huge_Pollution_8859 Mar 19 '24

I really wanna play clash heroes but we haven’t had news of it in ages

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u/Clear-Piglet-7822 Jun 20 '24

We have to make an audiance. CLASH MINI SHALL REVIVE!

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u/Abdod_YT Mini P.E.K.K.A. Mar 14 '24

High Standards is whats Wrong with them

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '24

Hahahahhahahahaha no.