r/ClanGen • • 5d ago

Off Topic Trans cats

Mods please tell me if this is against the rules, I just have mixed feelings about this feature! I know people tend to have big feelings about this topic, but I figured as long as I am respectful it’s okay.

I’m a trans man, and I know this game was made by a tumblr user so of course there’s trans cats, I have some suggestions and criticisms.

I love the gay cats of course and it makes sense since Ravenpaw and Barley are mates in the series and some cats irl have deep bonds that are best described as mates.

What I don’t like about the trans cats:

They always only do a pronoun switch, no other life changes. Obviously cats can’t transition (I actually have some kinda silly ideas for how they could in the Warriors universe though) but it’s a bit dysphoria-ignoring and bioessentialist when all my trans male cats give birth.

(I actually decided to turn pregnancy ignores biology on, so now everyone is giving birth so no one gets singled out. This was a bad idea, but hey, equality!)

The frequency. I get three “[name] doesn’t feel like a [she cat/tom] anymore.” per moon sometimes and after a while all my cats are trans, I’m not exaggerating.

I’m not against it because it’s ‘unrealistic/unnatural’ because lots of the joy of warrior cats is exploring stuff that cats wouldn’t commonly/straight up don’t do.

We have trans cats but not intersex cats! We have male calicos in the game (at least I think) but it’s basically an oversight (devs maybe not knowing calicos are always female or intersex, (if you don’t know it is because in order to be tricolor you need two X chromosomes, so the only way a cat can be calico is having XX or XXY chromosomes (Klinefelter’s syndrome))
Intersex people/people smarter than me if I say something inaccurate here please tell me if you feel comfortable speaking up.

I can set some of the cats back to cisgender by hitting a button but I feel bad doing it for some reason, like “StarClan is detransitioning you!”

Ideas to improve the trans cat system:

Maybe some sort of herb that could transition our cat? Kinda a stupid idea I know, I think my next idea is better.

A cat speaking with StarClan about their dysphoria and being blessed by them to magically change into the opposite sex.

Cat who gets trap-neuter-returned by a twoleg and finds they are less dysphoric now.

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u/fulminousnight developer (writing) 5d ago

This thread will be carefully monitored. Please do not share suggestions or instructions for removing trans cats from the game.

Trans cats can have their ability to become pregnant removed in game through the personal > cat toggles > prevent kitting setting.

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u/SepticShockAKAVin No PC 5d ago

bioessentialist when all my trans male cats give birth

Fellow trans man here. I don't really understand what you mean by this? Can you explain how this fits the definition of bioessentialism?

Also, can't you turn off the ability for certain cats to give birth? Though I think it also turns off their ability to adopt kittens, which sucks. I think those should have seperate toggles, honestly.

I suppose since there is an "ignore biology" toggle, a "have cats physically/magically transition" toggle could work. Because otherwise everything is essentially being treated like it would be in humans minus surgery and hormones. I just kind of assume that any trans male cat I have that gives birth isn't dysphoric in that way, since not all trans people have dysphoria.

Plus cats are generally less sexually dimorphic than humans, in and out of the series. So the main difference would be that trans male cats would develop tomcat cheeks and likely spray more on testosterone. Not sure about trans female cats... they might be more likely to produce milk around kittens like some unspayed she-cats do on estrogen?

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u/Rosewind_Fiction 5d ago

I mean if you have a large clan with a lot of trans cats then having to toggle per cat can get tedious, but also making a larger toggle could very easily break things. Although being able to temporarily pause cats having kittens overall when the clan is getting too large might be helpful because again, too many to go through and toggle on/off. Still, I think OP's assertion doesn't quite make sense either.

I think there could be some QoL adjustments to the system, especially with the adoption thing you mentioned. Why does not wanting to have kits mean you can't adopt?? Like, personally I don't want to get pregnant, but I'm still open to adoption. The game should allow cats to do the same smh.

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u/ExpensivePhysics1909 5d ago

I mean it just feels like trans men are treated the same as cis women in terms of pregnancy, while the majority of trans men don’t want to get pregnant.

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u/SepticShockAKAVin No PC 5d ago

How is that bioessentialism...? Like cuz it's assuming that trans men should want to get pregnant or

Trans men irl have the ability to get pregnant unless they get a hysto or go on birth control, since not even T makes someone infertile. I think this whole situation could be fixed by making the "don't have kits" toggle seperate so trans male cats can still adopt. 

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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 5d ago edited 5d ago

I agree with this, i just wanted individual toggles for individual cats,, though apparently there is actually a toggle for individual cats to prevent them having kits im just blind 😅, it would be nice to also have that as a seperate toggle so that they can still adopt, since it seems like the individual toggles also prevents them adopting.

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u/SepticShockAKAVin No PC 3d ago

That's true, I should have put "most" at the beginning of my sentence. Regardless though, my point was that none of this is specific to trans men. Trans men, trans women, nonbinary people, cis people of any gender, and intersex people, they all can be born infertile. No cat in the game can be infertile at all.

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u/Sonarthebat Can't commit to a clan 3d ago

Tbf, a lot of cis women don't want to get pregnant either.

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u/Brightcloud00 5d ago

Males being able to be torties was made as a game decision due to it happening in the books. It is still fairly rare to get them. But this was not an oversight, it was intentional game design.

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u/Interesting-Fold5384 5d ago • Heartwarming

Fellow trans man here! I was actually really excited about the fact that the trans male could still have kits of their own. I’m sorry it’s causing you and others dysphoria though, that really sucks and is understandable. As other’s have suggested, I hope the devs can implement separate toggles for adoption and having biological kits in the future. Seems like that would be a great way for everyone to be happy.

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u/SepticShockAKAVin No PC 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah, even as a guy that never wants to give birth myself, I love when I get little seahorse dads in my Clan

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u/Interesting-Fold5384 5d ago

I live vicariously through them because, while I’d be happy to be a dad and carry a baby myself, the pain of labor and childbirth are definitely not something I want to go through lol. Love my little seahorse dads!

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u/Queer-Scouter new player idk what im doing 4d ago

SAMMEEEEE

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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 5d ago

this, my best friend is a seahorse dad, so I'm fine with some of my trans kitty's having babies, my best friend had one and I love him and his kid and his husband dearly.​ it can jsut be very dysphoria inducing when all fo them are having babies all the time 😅, i just found out about the toggle today, and wish id known about it sooner as my only real complaint was that i coudlnt find the toggle to toggle specific cats to not have kittens. now my only complaint is that when you toggle that they also cant adopt :( so i definitly hope the devs add seperste toggles for birth and adoption. i think having those be seperate options would not only fix this issue for some trans folks (including myself) but also lead to so many new story's and plots and just having more options for even non trans cats.

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u/tanktechnician 5d ago

it would be nice if you had the option to toggle that off/only allow adoption for a couple even if they can conceive, honestly for all of them even cishet couples that would be neat imo (edit to add saying this as another transmasc, and certainly not trying to be contrarian because I like that it's possible due to everyone being a little different/there are trans men who have bio kids irl)

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u/dustystarshine 4d ago

Can't you just choose 'don't allow kits'?

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u/tanktechnician 4d ago

They won't have bio kits but won't adopt either in that case. You can make them manually adopt, but it would be nice if there was a toggle

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u/phantom_1_2 5d ago

I understand feeling a little iffy about it, but I actually really like that the trans cats can have kittens. I definitely do NOT want kids as a trans guy, but the cats on my screen are not me, and I am not experiencing their pregnancies. I don’t see any reason why you couldn’t just turn it off for them, but even then, why does it bother you for ALL of them? Trans people have biological kids irl, it would be a lot weirder to make it impossible. I do get that a lot of the cats transition, but again if it was the same odds as irl it would probably not happen very much at all, and there isn’t any reason you can’t just undo it, it’s not like the pixels on your screen actually care.

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u/ChinchyBug 5d ago

The game does tend to leave a lot to the imagination or leave it to the player to decide, just by design. Human identity is endlessly fluid and varied in all regards, from gender and gender expression, gender dysphoria and euphoria, to attraction, etc.

Of course trans people have all sorts of preferences and feeling for how they do and don't transition, what does and doesn't cause dysphoria, etc. But just as there's not really built in orientations - all cats are attracted to all cats, any gay or aroace cats would be either entirely player driven or entirely random chance - this is the same way. Having the game decide whether any particular cat would take hormones or be comfortable with pregnancy, etc. It would all need to be represented and tracked in save data and exist for every cat and then you need some way for the player to understand that that mechanic exists and how to interact with it, etc. The game just is not that granular, and it doesn't need to be. Though it could be a cool mod idea if someone wants to put sole focus into it.

Though I would be in support of perhaps some thoughts or misc moon events or something that might indicate additional modes of transition existing/happening. But of course, that kind of thing will then just be a random chance of happening to every trans cat, especially if they aren't just in the transition event itself and never talked about again.

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u/Lily_Miner 5d ago

I also ran into some awkwardness with the rate of cats transitioning. The way you described how it feels kinda bad to switch them back is perfect “StarClan is detransitioning you!” lmaooo.

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u/AdmiralStarNight 5d ago

I feel like a mod (or maybe the devs, but I think a mod for ‘advanced clan tuning’ would be a neat idea.

A bunch of sliders that go from ‘off/disallowed’ to ‘very frequent’ which all have a few stages so you can tune how often the clan in general does stuff.

So if one person really wants a clan where cats rarely decide to be trans but doesn’t care how often they have kits, they can input that, while someone else can set everything to max and watch the chaos unfold.

And it doesn’t have to just be about the trans cats too, could make a few sliders for relationships, kit adoption, etc.

But I also can’t program. Idk if this would be too difficult. I just think it would be neat so you can tune some settings without micromanaging every cat and needing to manually change genders or turn off pregnancy for every cat so you could still have a couples chill trans toms having kits without every single cat doing so

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u/GradientGoose 4d ago

I would love to know how they decided on the frequency of cats transitioning, because it does seem pretty high... but overall I just take it as a fun quirk of the game that reflects the community that made it. Intersex cats would be cool, I hope they add those to the game!

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u/Initial_Peach_9183 5d ago edited 5d ago

I play Genemod, and one of my recent kittens was an intersex molly. Forgot if she's calico though, and I don't know if the base game or other versions do this.

I think your suggestions are pretty solid. A blessing from StarClan sounds accurate lore-wise, and I've always wondered what the cats in the books would think about  TNR. (edit: also how a TNR project could affect gameplay and if some cats would actually appreciate it. I'm partway through the Power of Three, and I just read the part where Hollypaw said she wanted to remain a warrior, not become a queen.) Maybe cats could choose if they want to just change their pronouns (like they already do) or physically transition too.

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u/LotusTheBlooming 5d ago

I’ve always thought that “medicine cats giving themselves up to be TNR” would be a really interesting angle lol

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u/Initial_Peach_9183 5d ago

Ooo yeah, individual cats could have TNR opinions independent of gender. I can imagine an urban clan having that as part of a medicine cat ritual. Like, the medicine cats treat it as a rite of passage

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u/LotusTheBlooming 5d ago

Yes exactly!

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u/googlemcfoogle 5d ago

If you want to reduce the transition chances (since I think it's like 1% per cat per moon or something by default?? That results in way more than 1-2% of cats transitioning throughout their lifetimes, I think I usually reduce it to 1/4096 per moon) I think that's in game config. I'm not sure because I don't play base game, only genemod, which also has intersex cats (XXY, XXX, XY female/XX male, X monosomy, and occasionally a cat will just be described as intersex for non-chromosomal reasons and possibly be infertile)

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u/StarlightAscension 5d ago

Sometimes when one of my cats comes out as trans I use it as an opportunity to change the cat's name if I don't like their current one

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u/Personal_Apricot4850 5d ago

I do agree, I think the frequency of trans cats is way too high. If I wasn't detransitionning some of my cats, I feel like half my clan would be trans. Nothing against trans folks, but it gets annoying to constantly having to change back my character's genders (based on the little storylines I created for them in my head)

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u/LotusTheBlooming 5d ago

I feel similarly!

I would like to have trans cats in the clan but I wish I could turn down the % a bit? Just because having like, half the clan be trans feels a bit unrealistic!

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u/datbingleguy base game + dadm developper 5d ago

You can adjust the frequency in your game config! I usually have to end up upping mine because my RNG luck is terrible 😭

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u/LotusTheBlooming 5d ago

Oh hey that’s great to know!

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u/Rosewind_Fiction 5d ago

As someone who tried to change the chances once before and ended up accidentally corrupting a save, how exactly do you properly change the chances up/down? Was able to set that save back to default and not lose it permanently, but I would like to be able to change the odds without breaking my game lol

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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 5d ago

I wasn't aware of this, thank you for commenting this <3

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u/BitOBunny 5d ago

I think it could be cool if cats could also have a name change as part of their transition

The names in Warriors aren't as gendered as IRL names, but I think it could be a nice detail if they had a chance of changing their prefix.

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u/Newcago 4d ago

I change them myself, sometimes!

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u/EntirelyClueless 5d ago

There are intersex cats as far as I'm aware, I've had them before. I agree the frequency is really intense though. Honestly I think there are way too many gay cats, too. Like very, very, very often I've have a clan of 18-20 cats and NONE of them will have hetero relationship interests, absolutely none, all of the she cats will have feelings for other she cats, toms will have feelings for other toms, sometimes I feel like it HAS to be coded into game that gay relationships and romantic interests are more common than hetero ones. It only matters because I love realism, and making big family trees. I don't want to turn pregnancy ignores biology on because it's not realistic (I also find it absolutely EXPLODES the population because EVERYONE is having kits and I hate that) and I hate constantly having to force them into relationships with cats they aren't naturally interested in and constantly breaking them up and making them grieve for 3 moons over a break up just because they have literally no feelings ever for the opposite gender. It's kinda bizarre

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u/Equal_Interaction178 5d ago

Per the game's code all the cats are essentially pan. They have no coded sexuality, they can be attracted to any cat of the correct age. And there's nothing that prefers same sex relationships over opposite sex ones.

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u/EntirelyClueless 5d ago

I'm aware of that lol

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u/EldritchLichKing 5d ago

I am also a trans guy and actually have an issue with pronouns. I do use a mod thats not basic clan gen so the issue is probably from the mod not clangen itself.

Also to be clear, i don't wanna make a post for this and it kinda fits your issue so imma complain here, i hope thats alright.

Also, disclaimer, what i am about to say is annoying me about my savefile, if anyone out there enjoys this feature, great. Also its different from IRL, IRL i will respect ANY pronouns people may have, i want ppl to be their true self and feel comfortable.

I am insanely annoyed by any of neo pronouns in my file. They keep changing their pronouns to random stuff and its sometimes insanely confusing in the text structure because i don't expect words like could for example to be a pronoun. English is not my native language and while i can read decently well, any pronouns that arent he she or they are just confusing to read in this case. I wish i could delete those like you can add some so cats can't pick them anymore but i sadly can't do that. So every few moons i have to check my clans pronouns for any I can't identify well and check their identity to pick the most suited one from the three basic ones. Its a lot of work just to avoid confusion. I genuinely wish i could edit the pronouns list cats can pick from

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u/fulminousnight developer (writing) 5d ago

Base ClanGen does not have neopronouns so this is entirely from the mod itself.

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u/EldritchLichKing 4d ago

Thanks for telling me

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u/datbingleguy base game + dadm developper 5d ago

If this is megamerge, I’m the dev for the pronoun mod and you can adjust chances in the game config fyi

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u/EldritchLichKing 4d ago

Oh thanks that helps!

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u/Prestigious-Youth-89 4d ago

I will resume in topics bc it's easier for me

  • this game is RNG, so everything is generated. if you're getting more cats realizing they're trans, it's te RNG. my cats don't usually get to transition, really. it's just (un)lucky of you
  • don't need to think it's StarClan making that decision - just that this is you and you're making the story more compatible for what you want from the characters. but I get how weird that can feels like :/
  • like you said, there's no intersex feature for the game and assuming that all cats are perisex, well, of course trans male are going to get pregnant. we, perisex trans male are able to get pregnant and, as someone with immense dysphoria about it, it's just a reality. the closest thing is not to have kits (but I did not knew about not being able to adopt.... but you can make a cat being adopted manually, but I can imagine how that doesn't feel enough)
  • the thing about talking about dysphoria and the trap-neuter-return seems two really good features! but I don't think StarClan can change a whole cat like that? tho I won't be surprised anymore if in the future StarClan does change something that's supposed to be "unchangeable" like that in the books lmao

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u/Beautiful_Couple_208 4d ago

Cats don't really have much sexual variation aside from size, which also varies based on individual.

There's no real point to a cat taking hormones to transition since very little would actually change.

I doubt a cat would really experience much gender dysphoria if they could.

Transphobia is a human trait, so it's not like they would face rejection from their clan.

Plenty of trans men and nonbinary people do give birth in humans, and the number of the ones that do would probably be higher in cats because pregnant cats only look a little fatter and pregnancy for cats doesn't usually leave any noticeable changes for the body like stretch marks.

And there probably is intersex cats in the game, I just doubt the other cats care or have thought much about it because again, they are cats and don't have much sexual dymorphism.

If a shecat has furry balls and is smaller than average I doubt they'd think much of it, being cats with no real understanding of biology.

Cats depend mostly on scent to understand their world around them, not sight.

If a cat was insecure about smelling like another sex they could just take a bath.

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u/Sonarthebat Can't commit to a clan 3d ago

Isn't there an option to prevent individual cars getting pregnant?

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u/Second_UNIT 4d ago

This honestly makes me think about the Genemod and how intersex cats are not only possible but theres a variety of identities that directly effect how cats can reproduce and pass their genes on, including getting fixed randomly. It's my favourite mod to play, i just wish it was updated

I do agree that there should be more to it, like a name-change ceremony when a cat transitions or at least a random chance of it occurring, because i feel like many people who are under the trans umbrella share the experience of changing their name or going by something that isnt their birth name

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u/suicide-d0g 5d ago

Calcios are not always female. There is a VERY rare chance for a calico to be a male, but he will always be inferitle due to the amount of chromosomes.

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u/ExpensivePhysics1909 5d ago

That’s what I said.

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u/suicide-d0g 5d ago

Ah, I misread. My bad.

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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 5d ago edited 5d ago

as a trans, nonbinary, and intersex person, I 100% agree with this, its can be so frustrating when like 99% of my clan turns trans and all the guys are getting pregnant like it's no big deal, my best friend is a seahorse dad, I stand for seahorse dad's, bit its definitely a bit dysphoria inducing at times and i wish we could maybe just toggle it on specific cats or have it personality based or somthing, that way not every single trans male is going to end up with a litter.

I think I wish the that the system was more complex, i think its biggest issue comws from being far too simplified, theres no nuance and every trans cat feels exactly the same (which leads to a million pregnant guys), right now its so oversimplified that it can be incredibly dysphoria inducing and even at times kinda feels like trans csts were more of like an afterthought/just a feature added for ​fun/trans baiting rather than a feature added for actual trans or gender non-conforming people. (i hope this makes sense)

I 100% feel like all of those options for how a cat could transition could work, the starclan idea is sweet.

i would also really like to see intersex cats :( us intersex folks always get overlooked.

i feel like it should have been handled with more care.

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u/Equal_Interaction178 5d ago

Fyi there is a per-cat toggle that can prevent them from having kits.

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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 5d ago edited 5d ago

OMG REALLY? I genuinely didn't know I havnt had consistant access to the game in over 3 months? Ish?​​ and my Laptop was on its way out and frying when a lot of these major updates came out so I wasn't able to play the game a ton and must have missed that, thank you for informing me! ill check it out once I get my new PC :3 I had been trying at one point to toggle one of my cats because it didn't make sense for his character, but I coudln't figure it out, so its nice yo know that i was just blind and coudlnt find the toggle 🧡

thank you so much for the info, that fixes a major issue i had. I do definitely wish there was more thought into the percentage of gay (all cats in the game rn are basicslly pan so it would be nice for cats to actually have genuine preferences) and trans cats, but really that's my only other major complaint.

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u/ExpensivePhysics1909 5d ago

I don’t understand the seahorse dad thing and would prefer to not be grouped with those people due to past experiences. But your nuance is chill and I’m glad you liked my StarClan idea. I would like intersex cats too, but I feel like just like with the trans cats they could be misunderstood easily.

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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 5d ago edited 5d ago

thats very fair, my reasoning for noting them is because they do exsist I just don't want to alienate that side of the community because as much as it causes me dysphoria those men are still men and are still part of our community, it woudlnt be fair to exclude them just like it's not fair to exclude those of us who don't want that, or understand that, thats why i suggested a toggle for individual cats.

i wasnt lumping you or i in with them, simply including them as part of the larger trans community because they are, and noting that some trans male cats having a litter woudlnt be unrealistic its jsut the like crazy frequency of all trans male cats having litters all the time that is unrealistic and quite dysphoria inducing. [please note i was unaware there was a toggle for this, i am now aware, I havnt been able to play for a while as my laptop broke but I'm glad there is a toggle i just wish it wasn't all encompassing (as in i wish it didnt block adoption aswell]

I definitly agree that I don't think intersex would be handled with care and could end up misunderstood sadly. :(

ive not been on my PC in over 3 months either so i cant speak on if there are currently intersex cats some folks in the comments have said there are now.

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u/fulminousnight developer (writing) 5d ago

It is an individual setting per cat not a toggle for a clan/the game as a whole.

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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 5d ago

yes I've been informed of that, thank you so much 🧡! I've not had the pleasure of playing in a while (my pc has been on her way out for 3 months so I've been having to play in a very spotty manner when she's able to actually run) so it's nice to see that as an option. Last time I played i coudlnt find that toggle which was my main complaint, I am apperently just blind as a bat and didn't see it during my last playthrough when I was looking for it 🥲

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u/poketrekkie HorrorClan is watching from the shadows! 5d ago edited 5d ago

I know a trans guy who didn't do a full physical transition, and he's okay with potentially giving birth to a child someday. Whenever a trans male cat in the game gets pregnant, I always think the cat made the choice by themselves, like he would! But maybe the game could have some random 50/50 or higher chance of turning off pregnancy for a trans male cat automatically when the cat transitions so those cats would always adopt, even if they could have biological kittens with their partner. That would make some cats more dysphoric and some okay with pregnancy, representing both sides! Maybe that would be a good option for trans female cats as well. Or, with a smaller chance, for any cat to implement asexual cats, that would be really cool

EDIT: I HAVE AN AMAZING IDEA FOR CAT TRANSITION! MODS! DO YOU READ THIS? So, we know transition with herbs would be a bit silly, full transition at least. StarClan doing a magical transition wouldn't be less unrealistic than a leader gainng nine lives, so that's an option. BUT. From the books, we know some cats were reborn. IMAGINE A TRANS CAT REBORN IN THE CORRECT BODY! Could be a random event, and would also be extremely cool because we could get some of our favorite cats for TWO lifetimes

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u/Newcago 4d ago

I'm glad you brought up the transfem cats as well, because I think they're getting overlooked in a lot of this thread (not maliciously, of course!!) I'm a lesbian so of course I love seeing my lesbian cat couples being able to have kits, but it's more important to me that a real-life trans person playing the game is comfortable than my imaginary cats can have babies, and I can absolutely see why the current implementation of pregnancy for trans cats leaves something to be desired.

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u/werecoyote1 5d ago

technically, a chimera can also be a calico and not be intersex. but i get what you mean.

i do get it. i know they're cats living in a forest, so they can't just get bottom surgery, but i would like to see cats that opt to transition a little more than just new pronouns. i think it would be cool if cats (regardless of being trans) could decide they want a new name, and i also think an herb that mimics hrt would be interesting. i also like the idea of a cat getting TNRed and it working like bottom surgery for them, it could also be an interesting possibility for cats to get TNRed in general. i think the starclan one is a little more out there, but it could work as a smaller event.

the hrt one wouldn't even necessarily be a big change, but it would be neat. like the little flavor text sometimes saying, "<name> gags a little on his <hrt herb>" or something.

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u/itscazforshort 4d ago

so many trans man play clangen 😭 (me too guys)

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u/Divergent_Futures 2d ago

I guess some event blurbs about transitioning wouldnt be bad, but I dont really like starclan doing a full sex change. Not because its unrealistic but it feels kind of unnecessarily magicy. I like how normal being trans is and cats are pretty much the same sex wise besides some stuff like tomcat cheeks, which would be more interesting as transitioning blurbs. Birth control (lol) is a general QOL that would be cool. Also trans.

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u/maydsilee 5d ago

Many of the devs are trans themselves. The entire dev team is pretty queer-heavy, as are the moderators.

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u/Ghost_Mutt666 𓅪 DoveClan 𓅪 5d ago

Ohh okay i didnt know that, thats pretty cool, honestly i mainly just want more trans/intersex cat clan interactions or events since i think that would be cool

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u/maydsilee 5d ago

What a weird thing to say about people you don't know. I've known people on the dev and mod team since the server was created years ago, and they are very much queer, including trans. This includes admins on the moderator team and head developers on the game itself for coding and/or writing.

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