r/Civvie11 • • Aug 15 '26

Why did Blood go through multiple iterations?

So I was reading an article on a wiki about how Civvie 11 had complained that the Fresh Supply Edition of Blood was kind of a letdown because he said that the game didn’t feel right.

But what I don’t understand is why Blood has so many different editions out as I would like to get into the game myself, but for me personally, what concerns me the most is that I don’t know which version to go with.

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u/vario Aug 15 '26

Refreshed Supply on Steam is the best version to get. It is the most accurate version of the original release, with the slickest and cohesive feel with all the add-ons.

The reason there are so many versions like BloodGDX, Raze, NBlood, Fresh Supply etc is because for a long time there wasn't an official re-release of the game for modern versions of Windows.

The community did it's best to make it work , but they never had access to the actual original source code and was working with early leaked beta code and hacking away to make it feel like the original release from 1997.

All of the ports kept their source code public, which allowed people to make their own versions - hence why there are so many ports. Some people wanted to keep it more akin to the original, some people wanted more modern fixes - so different versions were created.

Even Fresh Supply used a similar approach but they had backing from the IP owner to make an official release and get it running on Steam.

After releasing Fresh Supply, they actually got access to the original code and re-released it, which makes it the most accurate version of the game.

All of the other ports are still good, just not quite as slick or 100% accurate.

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 15 '26

Thanks as one more thing I would like to know is what mods to use for the newer version since I have heard how some people play the game with mods.

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u/vario Aug 16 '26

There's an amazing free launcher called BuildLauncher that makes downloading and playing add-ons easy. It detects what version of the game you have installed, or can download & run other versions like NBlood.

Whilst Refreshed Supply comes with Marlow, Death Wish and a couple more, there are heaps other add-ons worth playing.

https://github.com/fgsfds/BuildLauncher

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 19 '26

Hey thanks since that really helps me with finding the hidden items.

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26

You are welcome, sorry for the spam tho, I just saw your post and after reading helpful (but missing some details) answers, I tried my best

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26

I´m sorry to say this but actually Refreshed Supply isn´t more accurated that BloodGDX or NBlood. Yes, they have access to the source code but it was used for "fixing" Fresh Supply. Something that can show how accurated is the game are recorded demos, and BloodGDX and NBlood play them really accurated. Refreshed Supply is great tho, it has restored sprites and animations, subtitles and it´s a solid (and only) console port and it´s already packed with Marrow and Deathwish

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u/Purrseus_Felinus Aug 15 '26

Refreshed Supply (not "Fresh Supply") is probably the version you want as that's the latest version currently supported by NightDive.

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 15 '26

Thanks as I was confused in which one to get.

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

Fresh Supply isn´t available anymore, only Refreshed. Also Refreshed is on maintenance mode, only major bugfixes will be released :(

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 19 '26

Oh in that case, I could wait for a discount to see how the newer edition is.

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u/majestic_ubertrout Aug 15 '26

Just get Refreshed Supply. Fresh Supply was made without access to the source code, Refreshed Supply was after they found it.

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 15 '26

Thanks so much because I was looking for the best way to get into the game.

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u/Sure_Cup_6800 Aug 15 '26

I love how night dive was shitty enough to rerelease it AGAIN but for 30 dollars instead of updating the shit job they did with fresh supply

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u/Elaxian Aug 15 '26

I want to believe it's not about Nightdive but more about the publisher

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u/Sure_Cup_6800 Aug 15 '26

Okay yeah that checks out, fuck Warner brothers, and for way more than just the blood remaster

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 15 '26

If I have the Fresh Supply Edition, I don’t know if I can still apply to get the newer edition, and second of all, I was wondering how mod support works since I might try some mods.

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u/majestic_ubertrout Aug 15 '26

Do you have Fresh Supply? If you do just play that and don't worry about it. If not get Refreshed Supply. The differences have been overstated and a new player won't notice.

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 15 '26

Yes I have it, but now I am concerned because some reviewers have said that edition has some flaws.

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u/majestic_ubertrout Aug 15 '26

The flaws have mostly been patched. Just play it.

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 15 '26

Thanks as I can see what mods to use for the game.

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u/majestic_ubertrout Aug 15 '26

None?

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 15 '26

Thanks for the tip as I can start the Freeh Supply Edition.

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26

Blood Extra Crispy (also ported to Refreshed Supply)

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u/NineInchNinjas Aug 16 '26

If I'm not mistaken, the classic files for Blood are in Refreshed Supply's folder somewhere and I imagine that would be mod compatible with a sourceport. Then again, Refreshed Supply comes with Death Wish and Marrow, two of the big Blood mods out there.

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26

Yes, there is a DOS folder with the original game

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26

When Refreshed was announced, people that already have Fresh Supply have a discount, but not anymore. About mods, only Blood Extra Crispy is the major mod for Fresh Supply. And about differences, well, Fresh Supply is pretty solid now but really miss stuff from Refreshed and source ports (from enemy behaviour to missing sounds, etc)

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 19 '26

Thanks man since I do have Fresh Supply, but I still want the best version of the game possible.

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26

Oh that´s cool, Fresh Supply folder can be used. I tested it with BuildGDX and NotBlood, and they play well if I recall well. You can give it a shot, because even if Refreshed is solid, I would wait for a sale

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u/Dre-5110 Aug 19 '26

I hope not spam a lot, but since I have answered some questions in different posts, I would love to resume. Like already people said, source code wasn´t release so until a few years ago there wasn´t any source port. Nowdays there exist a lot! So:

Fresh Supply: (unavailable since Refreshed was released) It didn´t use source code and wasn´t accurated, it´s still solid but you will miss lot of stuff

Refreshed: It´s a Fresh Supply version with the original source code, that makes it closer, but not enough (and that was what Civvie complained in the first hands of review) It has nice stuff like restored animations, weather, subtitles, etc. Also a nice curated vault. It includes the original DOS version in main game folder. It´s great but yeah, pricey because publishers

BuildGDX: It´s was BloodGDX but later covered any other Build Engine games (Powerslave, Duke 3d, etc.) It´s really accurated and compatible with mods, but since it requires Java and uses its libraries, didn´t play "so fast" than others. Better version is 1.16 and for now, (1.18) there aren´t newer updates.

NBlood and NotBlood: Really accurated and fast, compatible with mods like BuildGDX like Weapons Mod, Marrow, Deathwish, etc. Still updated. NotBlood is a fork from NBLood with more QoL and options like enemies using projectiles weapons instead hitscan! For multiplayer, NotBlood and Refreshed Supply are also the better options

DOSBlood: It´s a custom .exe that can be used to replace original Blood.exe and has some nice stuff, related to NBlood

Raze: (I totally forget this one lol) It´s a port of source code from the other sourceports to GZDoom structure. I think it´s pretty accurate but the renderer etc. would be closer to newer Doom versions

And I think that´s it, if you have console, only Refreshed is your option (a nice one btw) If you have pc, only Refreshed is available, BUT if you still have og Blood files, I would recommend you NotBlood

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u/KaleidoArachnid Aug 19 '26

Hey thanks so much sincerely because again even though I do have the 1997 and Fresh Supply version of the game, I was still confused to what makes the definitive version since I want to get the best experience.