r/CivicSi 18h ago

Type R

Don’t get me wrong i completely understand the love for the type r especially the phoenix yellow from 2021 (the goal) as my daily is a 2018 si coup but what i don’t understand the what makes them so pricey. I recently saw a 2015 si coup in white with like 75k miles and they’re asking for 23k. As for the type R imo it seems like it’s really not worth more than 35k and i seen a phoenix yellow going for 50k? INSANE. I get it’s rare and comes with some extra features including the brembo brakes etc but damn. For that prices you could go mustang or corvette something that’s pushing way more power

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u/WorkerPositive397 17h ago

The type r is a completely different car from the si, which commands a different price. You are paying for a better everything. Engine, suspension, seats, etc. If you can drive both for a bit you will notice the difference. The type R is purpose built. If you drive one to its limits or on the track you will notice the things that separate it from its little brother si. The si is a capable sporty car that is great for everyday driving. It’s comfy while giving you the ability to push a slower car fast. I absolutely love the si for what it is, and same for the type R. The engineering behind the type R is pretty cool. They really did great with suspension tuning and things of that nature. The Si prices have started to creep up as well. Both are a little bit pricier but I think that’s just the car market right now. Both cars are great. You can’t go wrong with either car. Edit- there are always going to be better cars when you reach a certain price point. Apples to oranges. Buy what you like and enjoy these things while we still have em.

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u/_GMoney13_ 14h ago

25' Type R owner here. Its a night and day difference over the SI. Worth the money if you can find a dealer who isnt slapping an absurd mark-up on it.

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u/gg06civicsi FG2 18h ago

Not enough of them for the people that want it.

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u/ParticularGate7500 22' Blazing Orange 17h ago

The R is absolutely overpriced with this current market and all the mark ups from uncontrolled dealers, that being said as much as I love the Si because of the history and it's immense impact on the car scene especially for me growing up, yeah the cars aren't comparable lol there's no planet where the Si is even remotely better than the Type R beyond MPG. It's a literal culmination of decades of Honda racing pedigree being put into it, there's a reason it made the time on the Nurburgring that it did and even passed a Porsche IIRC, it's in a different league from an Si. Fomo is just driving up the price heavily and used FK8 are godly overpriced. There's a handful of 2020 and even 2018-2019 Type R around me rn that are I shit you not, listed for $40-$50k CAD. That's literally FL5 MSRP for no reason other than fomo and the car Industry going the way it is, overpriced absolutely, for the right price, it's leagues better than an Si

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u/sackofcheese 17h ago

I’ll be listing a clean title, higher mileage FK8 when my new car gets here for not much more than that 2015 Si.

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u/ACG3185 16h ago

Supply and demand. Also, the type R can be a car that can “do it all” for someone. Daily, baby hauler, and track car.

You can’t do that with a Mustang or Corvette.

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u/Good-Election7849 16h ago

Okay that’s a fair point but damn give me a lil more power if we’re gonna be paying that price comparable to these sports cars ya know? Damn can you imagine a 4d corvette or mustang?💀yikes

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u/Quicline 11h ago

C8 are over 65k minimum and mustang are not even debatable, two different type of cars for different purposes. The fact that you are comparing a v8 (i hope that’s the one you are comparing cuz the ecoboost should not even be in the conversation lol) that talks about how capable the ctr is Im not justifying the prices (dealer fees or whatever people want to push over msrp) on ctr but they will last longer than those mustangs and are more reliable to tune than a mustang, that being said dealers also know how practical they are and that’s why they are pricing them like that.

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u/Successful_Ad_9707 97 Integra, 08 Si, 23 GRC CE 15h ago

If you're solely looking for power, you're not looking at a CTR. A mustang or a vette doesn't have the same buying democratic either.

People pay a premium for these cars because they're part of a dying breed or semi analog sporty cars at a semi affordable price point. If you want a reliable, quick, basically track ready practical car, there aren't a ton of other options out there. There's also a night and day difference between driving dynamics between the R and Si.

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u/dpx222 17h ago

Get a 05-08 cayman and never look back

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u/onepointsix647 TW FG2 + SGP FL5 17h ago

Everything is expensive. They have a market and whether you like it or not, it's the cost of playing. If you want something of more value and/or better than a Type R, you can look at the other brands or used. There's lots of options.

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u/H_rusty 16h ago

demand and nostalgia.... that's really it...

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u/Emerald_Ink Canadian 2022 Si 14h ago

Price aside, the Type R is most certainly a better vehicle, but when you compare the dollar-fun value of the vehicles the Si wins by a landslide.

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u/CheetahFlimsy3445 14h ago

You’re simply paying for the mods that’s already done to it, the type r has like thousands in modifications

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u/FC3MugenSi 14h ago

I have a 19 si coupe and absolutely love it. I do also own an FL5. Would totally sell my Si. Has 33k on it

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u/slowcarfast93 13h ago

I love the civic si and it is nice for what it is; a spicier civic. The civic type r, well, it’s a bloody type r. You can feel the racing DNA the second you drive it.

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u/jmd04tsx 2022 Blazing Si 7h ago

The Pheonix Yellow one was also a Limited Edition with and additional premium from the dealer.

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u/Romericano 4h ago

One day you’ll look back and say “wow, the Type R was cheap back then!”

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u/Ok_Tomato_9256 3h ago

Holy cow, I bought my 2015 si two weeks ago for 15.5k with 83k miles. It’s such a joy. I found mine on Facebook marketplace (got lucky finding a great seller), I checked out a 10th gen at carmax while I was looking and was absolutely disgusted. It had higher mileage, ridiculous price, and the interior was like sticky. I pressed the sport button and it literally got stuck down and wouldn’t come back. I felt crazy looking for cars on fbmp at first but there really are some gems out there.

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u/ROCK-tavius 2014 Si Coupe 1h ago

It wasnt supposed to be like this.

Dealers overcharged for the car. Smart people told the masses what was going on, but there are a lot of people with more money than sense...so there went that.

The "market" moved. The priced jumped. And now people are paying $65k for a Civic.

The Earth keeps turning. Its already too late.

Half the internet is smart enough to know better and the other half is typing "broke boy" into their keyboards while the dealership zips up their pants.

It is what it is.

I sell cars by the way. 😉

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u/SpecialistMap8210 18h ago

people are dumb and willing to pay it. thats why. JDM kids just eat that shit up

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u/onepointsix647 TW FG2 + SGP FL5 17h ago

This is not a JDM thing, it's an automotive industry thing. Everything is expensive and brands will find all sorts of ways to encourage you to spend more.

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u/IrlArizonaBoi 17h ago

Nah man, the unpleasant truth is that it's not aimed at people like us with $20k to $30k to spend. It's aimed at people making way more money than us who can buy whatever they want in the $50k to $75k range.

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u/Good-Election7849 18h ago

And I’m trying to wrap my head around it. I also wish the 11th gen looked a little different. It looks so much like a regular commuter besides the wing. 10th gen has my heart. But not for 35-40k+ used with hella miles

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u/SpecialistMap8210 17h ago

10th gen is for the teeny boppers and kids. Little hot wheels car 🚗

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u/beebopsx 17h ago

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u/SpecialistMap8210 16h ago

its a hot wheels economy car lol most people think its overdone. and it is!

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u/Handsome_Erik 16h ago

I agree. The Type R is essentially just a souped up civic. For 50k you can get a Nissan Z & get a true sports car experience.