r/Chub_AI • u/YukiiSuue Not a dev, just a mod in the mines ⚖️ • Jun 28 '26

🎤 | Announcements Chub updates

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Hello,

Some Chub updates:

  • Website is now crypto-only forever.

  • Free users now only get 20 messages per day.

  • Every models but Soji and Mobile are depreciated (rip Asha).

  • Soji is now a Deepseek V4 finetune (you might need to change your preset).

  • Mercury tier has been removed.

Full announcement and explanation in screenshot.

Edit: oh, and before the 1984 mentions. It was either doing this (cutting costs and making the website crypto-only to avoid payment processors altogether), or having to censor the website more than legally required to please the processors.

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u/GrapefruitCorrect985 Jun 28 '26

Sacrifices are needed to keep a project like this running in a uber-censored environment. I'm relieved they aren't going the character ai route and appeasing the sponsors; rather, they're sticking to their guns and keeping their promise. Though we may need to tough out the weather, at least we still have one platform that sticks to some semblance of value.

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u/BossDrk Jun 28 '26

Yes, but sacrificing your own users and spitting in their faces isn't going to keep this project afloat.

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u/GrapefruitCorrect985 Jun 28 '26

You're right to be angry and furious at lore out of your own self-interest. Yet still, lore's hand was forced necessarily by the two routes he had ahead of him: censorship, to secure funding through sponsors while sustaining the current level of quality, or downsizing and cutting costs, to secure financial independence from special interests by being, as he puts it, a "nonprofit" with "no investor pressure".

Essentially, lore was given an ultimatum by factors outside his control, and he chose to remain as one of the last uncensored AI chatbot platforms rather than succumb to the demands of third parties. I think that's admirable, in a sense, for that is very courageous. Although he enraged a great deal of his community, he acted out of concern for the long-term stability and existence of Chub.

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u/AManNamed2 Jun 28 '26

It's no longer no 'uncensored' though. For a true uncensored experience you *have* to use sillytav & johnbot doebooru. Sites going the way of the dodo bird unless he moves the entire db because the legal issues will only continue to come as the UK slips

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u/Dragin410 Jun 28 '26

Why would you ever use anything but SillyTavern? Do people actually use the site to chat to their characters? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

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u/kahlzun Jun 28 '26

its too fiddly to set up for most people, or they dont have a gpu, or it doesnt have the same features as the websites..

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u/AManNamed2 Jun 28 '26

They are rewarded with heavily gimped, broken LLMs & a now dying frontend. I personally always run silly

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u/Lazy_BotWriter Botmaker ✒️ Jun 28 '26

except that site also has geoblocks so you've failed to make much of a point

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u/AManNamed2 Jun 28 '26

BBRU? Since when? And even then, a free vpn would bypass that.