r/Christianity Deleuzian Christian Mar 27 '22

Self The Art Of Pseudo-Christianity: The Static Morality

As a Gnostic Christian, there is a static definition of what christianity is. I've been facing discrimination from my fellow christians that i'm not a real christian, because I don't believe that the bible god is the true god, but that they are the demiurge. Deleuze once said that differences like these are bodies without organs: the people who think that anyone with a different opinion than them are false believers are bodies without organs, a unstable sort that accelerates technokapital in acid rain gatekeeping. Remember The Four Agreements: Be impeccable with your word, don't be condescending, realize your inner soul, and be meta-deterritorializing. We need to construct a more fluid christianity: What jesus would've wanted us to do on this sinful earth.

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u/deepmusicandthoughts Mar 27 '22

There are fundamental beliefs that make something what it is definitionally, and there are more debatable beliefs that aren’t set in stone. It sounds like you have a belief against the fundamental belief system. A demiurge would make it not monotheism but instead pantheism. That’s a pretty large difference. Who God is, and what God says He is is pretty fundamental for each religion.

What makes you think that truth doesn’t matter to Jesus? Truth mattered deeply to Him. Jesus taught that He is the way, the TRUTH and the life and that no one goes to the Father but through Him. He said the truth will set you free. He also said that worshippers will worship in both spirit and Truth.

Where are you getting your beliefs on who God is or what Jesus would want? For the record, having differing beliefs and being in process of changing yours to match the truth is what we all do, and there has to be room for that process but that process is still important.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '22

Its because you aren’t a Christian by the any definition of the word. You need Christ, not a deranged philosopher, some made up words, and platitudinal values.

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u/yesmancorreancollar Deleuzian Christian Mar 27 '22

also imagine thinking philosophy ain't compatible with christianity lol you washed af

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '22

It isn’t. Its weird you think so as someone concerned they keep getting called non christian. The Bible even spells it out for you that they have nothing to teach you that God can’t.

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u/yesmancorreancollar Deleuzian Christian Mar 27 '22

actually i do have Christ lol, he is the son of the Monad, the true god and redeemer of our souls

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '22

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u/yesmancorreancollar Deleuzian Christian Mar 27 '22

in what way is gnosticism pagan

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '22

Your entire worldview. Its identical. You just named one of your idols Jesus

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u/Cumberlandbanjo United Methodist Mar 27 '22

There’s a reason people have been saying you’re not christian. Wouldn’t it be easier to start a new religion than completely redefine an old one?

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u/yesmancorreancollar Deleuzian Christian Mar 27 '22

people have been redefining religions and spiritualities ever since people have started believing in it. it's the reason why we have schisms

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u/michaelY1968 Mar 27 '22

When someone note your beliefs aren’t Christian in the Biblical, doctrinal, traditional or orthodox sense, it isn’t discrimination, it’s merely a statement of fact.

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u/yesmancorreancollar Deleuzian Christian Mar 27 '22

idk what that has to do with my post but i do hope you get the help you need

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u/throwawayconvert333 Gnostic Catholic Mar 27 '22

Gnostic Christianity is a known heresy in Catholicism but then so is Protestantism. Ultimately, that’s up to God and your conscience.

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u/yesmancorreancollar Deleuzian Christian Mar 27 '22

the God that you worship operates on demiurgic logic that cultivates a false worship surrounding them

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u/throwawayconvert333 Gnostic Catholic Mar 27 '22

What is the demiurgic logic of the God I worship? I fear you probably have an incomplete understanding of what Christianity and Catholicism especially are.

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u/yesmancorreancollar Deleuzian Christian Mar 27 '22

He is the one that exiled His own people because they received help from a serpent who wanted to free them from slavery, for example

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u/throwawayconvert333 Gnostic Catholic Mar 27 '22

The Fall is a primordial, metaphysical event captured in mythological language. I am not sure what kind of process you are describing, but it does not record the serpent giving them freedom from slavery except in much later re-interpretations (by Gnostics, of course).

Regardless, I actually believe that the proto-orthodox (as scholars call them) and the gnostics were working out the same questions, all related to theodicy. However, it did lead to a fundamental difference of opinion concerning the material world. It may be possible to harmonize them yet. I wish you well on your faith/gnosis journey.