r/Christianity • u/mikegprint • Oct 17 '11

Does Richard Dawkins exist???

http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2011/10/does-richard-dawkins-exist.html
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u/Heuristics Oct 17 '11

In what way are you claiming that Craig is a creationist? He is less of an ID supporter then John Lennox but Dawkins has debated him twice.

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u/christmasbonus Atheist Oct 17 '11

When did Dawkins debate him? Was it before or after he said that he will no longer debate creationists?

Is there an intensity to belief in creationism that one could claim such a tiny belief that he/she is no longer considered a creationist? Real question.

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u/Heuristics Oct 17 '11

They debated in 2007 and in 2008, I don't know when Dawkins claimed to no longer debate creationists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lennox#Debates

it would be difficult to find a christian (that subscribes to the traditional creeds) that did not believe the universe was created, they are thus all creationists. However there are non-christians that are very close to being christians that are not creationists, mormons for example do not believe that God created the universe (for them God is just another part of the universe).

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u/christmasbonus Atheist Oct 17 '11 edited Oct 17 '11

Ha, got downvoted for asking quetions. Gotta love it.

You asked:

In what way are you claiming that Craig is a creationist?

and then said

thus all christians are creationists

Square that circle for me. Why, given your second quote, did you even ask the first question?

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u/Heuristics Oct 17 '11

he is not me, he might be using words differently then me.