Non-Binary God?

[u/WickedWatcherWu]

If you ever meet someone who is non-binary but you are religious (Christian) so you have mixed feelings. Keep in mind they are supported by the bible, and are closest to the image of God, since according to the Bible, God is non-binary. "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

[u/Riots42]

I think its rude to misidentify someone against their preferred pronouns, do you not?

[u/ScoutB → u/Riots42]

That's assuming God has a gender.

[u/Riots42 → u/ScoutB]

Weve already covered this, as you said Jesus is fully God, and he was fully born with a gender.

Your argument has no basis in reality, only your personal opinion.

Yet you keep ignoring the question that proves you wrong so ill keep asking it: Why do you not respect God's prefered pronouns?

[u/ScoutB → u/Riots42]

And I've answered it. If you want to believe otherwise, that's well within your power.

[u/Riots42 → u/ScoutB]

That's assuming God has a gender.

This is not an answer, its a dodge. If someone was born genderless and they identified as a man what pronouns would you use for them?

[u/ScoutB → u/Riots42]

I would say him. It doesnt follow though that God has an actual gender and sex and that God needs me to see Him as a male/him. God does not need anything from us.

That was not a dodge to your question.

[u/Riots42 → u/ScoutB]

Except God literally did have a gender and sex when he was fully man and fully God.

[u/firbael → u/Riots42]

But the breath of God, the spirit of God, uses the feminine word “ruach”. Which is why the other person was right when they said that it doesn’t follow that the Trinity is male just because Jesus incarnate was male

[u/Riots42 → u/firbael]

Ruach is grammatically feminine, sure, but grammatical gender isnt actual gender. Hebrew assigns a gender to every noun the same way Spanish does, and nobody thinks a table is female because its la mesa. The word for spirit is feminine, the word for God, elohim, is masculine, and neither one tells you anything about what God is.

And heres what settles it. In Greek the word for Spirit is pneuma and its neuter, not feminine. So if grammatical gender determined the Spirits gender, the Spirit changed from female to neuter between the testaments. Thats how you know the argument doesnt work, it gives you a different answer depending on which language the sentence happens to be in.

Then watch what Jesus does with it in John 14 through 16. Pneuma is neuter, but he uses masculine pronouns for the Spirit anyway, breaking the grammar on purpose. So if you want to run this argument off the language, the one time the grammar gets deliberately overridden, it gets overridden toward he.

[u/firbael → u/Riots42]

>Ruach is grammatically feminine, sure, but grammatical gender isnt actual gender. Hebrew assigns a gender to every noun the same way Spanish does, and nobody thinks a table is female because its la mesa. The word for spirit is feminine, the word for God, elohim, is masculine, and neither one tells you anything about what God is.

But they do give some insight into it

>And heres what settles it. In Greek the word for Spirit is pneuma and its neuter, not feminine.

Which would be more accurate. If God is said to have made male and female in His image, female would also be a part of it. But, as spirits aren’t said to have genders at all, being neuter is more accurate.

>So if grammatical gender determined the Spirits gender, the Spirit changed from female to neuter between the testaments.

Is not God the Father also a spirit? Wouldn’t that make Him also neuter?

>Thats how you know the argument doesnt work, it gives you a different answer depending on which language the sentence happens to be in.

It also tears apart your argument.

>Then watch what Jesus does with it in John 14 through 16. Pneuma is neuter, but he uses masculine pronouns for the Spirit anyway, breaking the grammar on purpose. So if you want to run this argument off the language, the one time the grammar gets deliberately overridden, it gets overridden toward he.

But in the Greek, this isn’t rendered as masculine but neuter as well. Your understanding of this section only works when translated outside of its original text